So what can we garner from the postponement? I sometimes chat with a team tracker member and asked him what his thoughts were and am waiting a response. I am hopeful it will give me insight, but wont share that unless he is ok with it. Anyway my thoughts are if you are a believer, this is the worst news you could hear at this juncture. The haters have been claiming this would inevitably happen for a long time and gives what we have been saying all along more weight. However after thinking about this for a moment, for the non believers, this could actually be something more than Rick padding his getaway. If in fact there were ever investors, maybe, just maybe they got wind of old Dyer and his rants and they are finally stepping in to shut him up. Seems like that step should have been taken a long time ago, but possibly they weren't aware of his goings ons and now that they know, they are taking action. I still don't believe Rick has a Bigfoot body. In Dr squatches use of percentages, I started off a little less than 50/50 and that deteriorated to a 10/90 and finally a 1/99 and that is a very weak 1. This though, in my mind anyway is the closest thing to reality to come from the Dyer camp ever, in my opinion. That's what an entity would do. They would jump in, muzzle Rick, take any date off the table and quickly create some legitimacy on any buzz. Rick Dyer is a legitimacy buzzkill and a wart on the community. If Rick had investors, he most likely signed his rights away for a dollar amount and is only in name associated with the body. Just wanted to share another way of looking at this and no I have not changed my mind on this being a hoax. Yet.
Lets take that a step further. If what I am saying is true, than Rick has only been under the illusion that this is his body. Investors put up the money for the testing, promotion and write Rick a check. Rick relinquishes his rights to any further profit directly from the body, except in books, documentaries etc. Rick being the dumbass he is still thinks he is in charge. If big money were brought in as in investors and attorneys and such, Rick becomes the small man in the back of the room. Sure they would parade him around and such, but he is not even remotely in charge of what happens next. Rick now realizing this is extremely upset. Rick likes being big man and this is a huge blow to his ego. Anyway, once again, I think this story and post of the postponement is the single most credible thing to come from this whole story. Do you follow me?
There are no *investors*>>>get it? Yep..huge hoax from the get go. I would like to know what Musky's role was in all this? He's either a SHILL for Dyer or Dyer has a pretty good fake..just not good enough to pass muster with the likes of>>>DEREK RANDLES, who was promised a viewing and never got one. Today's news on postponement is a harbinger for the DEATH of this long protracted hoax.
If you have followed me at all, you know I am one of the biggest screamers of this is a hoax crowd. My point is that the news of the date being postponed and Rick's show going off the air means one of two things. One Rick is hitting the road or two Someone who has the rights finally stepped in and said enough is enough Rick. We can have debates where we each call each other names or we can discuss logically the events as they unfold. That's why we're here. To see what happens in the end.
GA, I am not looking to call names, or create any tension. But I have to say I am kind of disappointed in you. All along you have been the voice of reason and logic. Now you think there may be investors? Unless you think investors would give money to a conman without seeing a body or verifying that it is real, how would this even enter your thought process? Why would there be investors if there is no body? I understand what you are doing, trying to look at every logical possibility...but that is not logical to me because you would need to assume he has a body to even come to that line of thinking...
You don't understand what I was doing. I was trying to create a conversation, a dialogue and I was playing the devils advocate. I was purposely taking Ricks side even though I don't believe it in order to stimulate a conversation. You have to read everything I say, not just the first few words and then respond. Of course there would have to be a body to have investors. My point was assuming he had a body and investors it would have always been in their best interest to put a muzzle on Rick. I don't believe that is what's happening now, I put it out there. I should have not assumed the people here were interested in an intelligent conversation. The pro Rick group never had anything to debate with. All I was doing was giving them something. Sorry I did that here.
I fully understand what you are doing. But ultimately that argument needs to rest on Dyer actually having had a body. So why even put it out there? What is the sense in discussing something that is an impossibility? The only thing that may come of this is some Dyer supporter will take what you say out of context and that you are now unsure and think Dyer may have a body.
Once again the only reason we are here is because the debate is whether there is a body or not. Why are you here? If you had no interest in this one way or another I am sure you could be doing better things right now. I can't be responsible for what a supporter thinks if they can't understand what I am saying. I am not here to hold the supporters hand with a dictionary and a thesaurus. I said I have 99% assurance that this is nothing more than a hoax and a weak 1% at that in the i don't know area. The truth is, no one but Rick Dyer knows the full truth and that is why we are all sticking around to see what happens next. 99% puts me pretty squarely in the doubters circle
"Why would there be investors if there is no body?"
The JREF org would pay to make fools out of the BF community. And I can't think of a better person to do that than Rick Dyer. This hoax has been well planned from the beginning the little details like FBFB and Musky, and Rick is just not that smart.
G.As point people was that out of all statements and hearsay and lack of evidence so far, the only real credible thing to come our way is Rick stopping his show and the date being postponed. He is not saying Rick is not hoaxing still, he is saying that if there was a body and there were investors, that is exactly what they would. Shut Rick up. Gosh people, don't be so dense. And yes like annonymous above, keep it up G.A
Let me get this one for you G.A. If there was no body of course there would be no investors!!!! In order to debate you must make an assumption on one side or the other. For the believers the assumption is that there is a body, for the non believers the assumption is there is no body. You are not very bright man 5:38. You can't have one without the other. No body, no investors. You can't argue with stupid.
5:55 - I may not be very bright but at least I'm quicker than you. What I'm suggesting is that they are paying him to run a hoax. Think about motives for a second. The money he's making is chump change the original silver memberships were only $5 even with a few thousand members that won't get him very far in Mexico. The only other option is to just humiliate people and who would pay him to do that?
He has no body and his increasing paranoia only gives that fact more juice. His NDA's aren't real. Why would his investors let some random car wrap guy see the body without conducting a proper background check on that individual first? Rick just brought him on a whim. This is a busted hoax
This would also make sense from the standpoint that nothing else has made sense. 1)The NDAs that don't keep you from saying anything 2)Random people with no credentials being allowed to see the top secret body. 3)His own blogs that have nothing to do with Bigfoot and everything with slandering others. 4)People like Christopher Noel sticking his head into the Rick Dyer bear trap. 5)Zero tangible evidence other than the only thing Rick still has the rights to (Tent video) This list could go on and on. Like I said, nothing has made sense coming from the Dyer camp and it all leads us to believe hoax. If however and I hope you all realize I am playing devils advocate here with this idea, there were investors Rick has never been in charge and has made everything up from NDAs to showing the body. He has a false sense of power and since the investors were up till now letting him say whatever he wanted, he was making it up as he went. The oddest thing for me in this has always been if there were investors, how in the world could they sit back and let Rick make a mess of things. I know it seems I have changed teams but I have not. I just believe this is how it should have gone from the beginning if investors were really involved. Shut Rick up and take away his keys. I also think it could be a good debate. G.A
I guess you all are only reading the first few words I am writing and then responding. Yes I still think this is a hoax. Unlike DS I am using a logical premise to make a point. This point has not swayed me to the believer camp, but I think it can be one which is debated.
GA, I get what u are saying and it is an interesting thought but I will play the game. If Rick was to get investors he would have had to convince them of his credibility and signed a contract that pretty much gave away his rights to the body from the get go. This contract would have been drafted by real attorneys. He would have this much co trol for so long making a mess with this without them pulling the plug. Also how did he get these investors??? An audience with this much money???
I still think this is a hoax. However as a devils advocate. Ricks investors were there at the get go once he showed the body. Your right, he loses all rights with the exception of books etc in the future, but the body is not his anymore. Somehow said investors were not aware Rick was caring on the way he has and was left alone up until now. The world is not buzzing over Rick Dyer, it is an extremely small circle, the BF community, so they weren't concerned. I am not even saying this is likely. I am only saying that this is the first and only thing that ever leaned towards this being real. Shutting Rick up. Like I said he is either silencing himself or he is being silenced. Since Rick doesn't know how to shut up, him being silenced gains some credibility.
Thank you RacerX for making us more room! Good luck on your recovery. Our thoughts are with you.
I think this 'postponement' is yet another trick for Dyer, he reads ALL these blogs, and the topic of the day was the 'inevitable' delay of the release. I have a small voice in the back of my head saying this is Dyer giving us EXACTLY what we want. Why? Maybe because the "press conference" will be this week. Perhaps it's yet another ploy to weed out the legion of moles working on the inside to give us info. Whatever it is, it ain't what it's proclaimed to be.
I was thinking the same thing. I said a Month or so ago, that Rick was going to be Stirring the Fire for the Haters, and doing off the wall stuff, He even said so himself. It would be funny if Pinkfoot and David never Left, Just made up stuff to get the Haters to say everyone is Jumping ship! Why haven't they SAID ANYTHING?? We have others saying that they said some stuff (Hearsay) But, we have not heard from them?? I hope this is a Joke. I typed a Letter to Frank Cali Last week, to Post on Rick's site, about How I support Rick...I Emailed Frank today, and told Him after Hearing the Delay of the Body, I do not want my Story Published.
I think you can answer your own question why Pinkfoot and David have kept their mouths shut. Dyer is insane. Look at the posts and videos he has posted against people already? When you have more to lose than the other guy you move on. They know the end of this thing is coming and they want nothing to do with Rick, probably out of fear of what he is capable of.
How would a person remaining anonymous, saying anything on either side be credible DS? With that logic I could put up a post without my G.A initials and say I am so and so and make anything up and you will believe it.
Had this been real, Dyer wouldn't have been able to discuss it. His investors who would legally and rightfully own the body, would had NDA'd his dumb loud mouth
Exactly, so Rick finally shutting up is the only pro Rick Dyer evidence we have EVER gotten. Nothing to this point has been pointing in his favor until him being silenced. Is he silencing himself or is someone else doing it? That is the question. People: Most posts just go back in forth with Ricks a hoaxer, Rick's telling the truth, you suck, no you suck. I am trying to create a real dialogue.
GA... Good God man...take a step BACK and look at this mess! Does this entire bizarre episode really make sense to you? A supposed BF is killed almost a year ago (while FILMING a movie!) and all we have is stonewalling and secrecy? One of the greatest discoveries of ALL TIME in his *possession* ALL THIS TIME and all we get is a *dog and pony show*? Do you really think this would be the outcome if someone REALLY HAD A BF ON ICE?? Not only that, NO LEAKS?? I'm telling you>>>the academic community would be absolutely a BEHIVE OF CHATTER with a BF being tested by University personnel and scientists. There is NO WAY a ridiculous *NDA* could keep a lid on a story like this is ACADEMIA. This latest postponement and change of venue>>>AT THE LAST MINUTE??? I mean, why didn't they do this several months ago..why NOW??? Isn't it obvious to you by now DYER is>>>BUYING TIME with this ploy?? COME ON MAN....wake up and smell the COFFEE!!!
Dude, I have made all of those points and more. I completely believe this is a hoax. If you are going to respond to me at least read what I have written. You are singing to the choir man with everyone of your points. My point is Rick shutting the hell up and going off the air and any release date being taken off the table is the only credible thing in this whole debacle. Is he silencing himself or is he being silenced? We all know Rick is a ego maniac that cannot shut his mouth and we all can guess that if he ever really did shoot a bigfoot he would have zero control over a release. Is this evidence that he shot a bigfoot? NO not in the least! My point is that this is the ONLY thing that has ever leaned towards a non hoax and that is shutting up Rick. This was supposed to be a debate. You can't school me on this as anyone who has followed me knows I have screamed as loud as anyone on all of the inconsistencies and bullshit to come out of this.
The issue I have with your "devil's advocate" theory is that you need to assume there is actually a real body for it to make sense. There would be no investors without a body. Since there is no body (let's be realistic here), I cannot get on board with that discussion.
The whole friggin debate is whether there is a real body!!!! That is why we are all here. Some believe, some don't, but we are all here to debate whether or not there is a body. Please look up what devils advocate means.
Devils advocate is not a theory dumbass anonnymous. G.A was playing devils advocate as in arguing the other side in order to create a dialog. And he is right, the debate is whether or not there is a body. To argue yes, there needs to be a body. To argue hoax, no body. G.A knows what he is doing here.
I have read G.A post for several weeks now and he honestly is one of the only people here that know how to use logic. I knew exactly what he was doing when I read his first post up at the top. Seems the dumb people are on both sides of the fence. Keep it up G.A, without you these people FAIL.
Chris Noel and Jack Barnes just announced that they will not be appearing on the show tonight, siting Rick's odd behavior around this postponement. Even his fellow hoaxers are finding his behavior too extreme to deal with, lol.
Christopher Noël Statement by Jack Barnes and Christopher Noël
Due to Rick Dyer’s highly problematic announcement earlier today, we are unable to take part in tonight’s scheduled round table discussion. We find that the announcement was written in such a manner as to create much more confusion and ill will than existed when we agreed to appear. The new atmosphere is certainly not conducive to a fruitful discussion.
The announcement is sloppily articulated and full of opaque statements, which will only add fuel to the ongoing heated and toxic debate within the Sasquatch research community.
We will be delighted to participate in the round table discussion at a future date, when Mr. Dyer finds himself able to clarify his statements, for the benefit of all, and thus to improve the general conversational atmosphere.
Love it and hope it is true. I hope the whole lot turn on Rick and he falls completely apart while the camera is running. We should all jump on over to Rick Dyers FB page and say hello.
WHY THEN? Why do another Hoax and Ruin the rest of your Life? And Take down a few with you, Musky, FB/FB, Chris, Frank, Etc.....WHY? And don't say that's what Sociopath's do.
You can't really answer that because you can't get into Dyer's mind. Just because I don't have a satisfactory *answer* for your question, doesn't mean that the lack of such an answer bolsters his story. That's simply fallacious reasoning. There is OVERWHELMING circumstantial proof that this is hoax..and now, with the long predicted ploy of>>> LAST MINUTE POSTPONEMENT (READ: BUYING TIME!), we can see this is indeed a hoax. As pointed out earlier...why didn't they change the venue from Vegas some time ago? Why wait until the LAST MINUTE (so to speak) to do so? He's>>>BUYING TIME!!!
It IS what sociopaths do. Normal people wouldn't do it but a sociopath would. Normal people can't believe liars can actually be THAT GOOD at lying, but they are.
Why another hoax? Besides the income, he gets satisfaction from conning people.
I didn't ask you for a Satisfactory answer, or any other Type of answer...I just asked if anyone knows why someone would do that to themselves and others...Well, the others Claim He's telling the Truth, So they want to Ruin Themselves too? I don't get it?
How about milking people out of there money? Sounds like a good theory to me. This guy doesn't even believe in BF. Neither do I, but that is besides the point. Once he saw what pawns most BF believers are he figured it was a great way to con people out of there money. He did it in 2008, then started these bogus expeditions, and starting charging people to be a part of his little group. Whoever posted about BF believers being cult-like in the previous thread is dead on. They will believe anything you say or do as long as it confirms their belief. So, either these other people were in on it and getting paid, or they are just sheep and will do anything Dyer says because he is their cult leader.
Yes..but THAT has been used an argument as to why Dyer would not hoax this time. That was my point and why asking that question can only be answered by Dyer himself.
Perhaps he has put the postponement on his blog and then sent out emails to different TT members saying that the body will be released on a certain date or that the body will be shown in a certain city. Then he can figure out who the leak is because each one is getting different info.
It was already posted but in case you couldn't scroll down to see it. Check out the google hangout Dyer did the other night. If you look closely at the 1:09-1:11 mark you will see either Dallas or Wayne full screen with a porno going on in the background. Right before he cuts off of being full screen there is even some doggy style action. That is priceless.
Lol i saw that as well. TT money going to good use. I bet he was watching it so he could telepathically communicate with a bigfoot in order to put him in heat, this procreating
Thanks that is so damn funny. At least it wasn't kiddie porn haha. It might be none other than Peter North giving it to that chick. What idiot doesn't turn the porn off during a webcast. He went from no running water to porn on the tube. I guess he blows his load in the same bucket he craps in
These people ( Barnes, Noel and musky) are not profits and they've got caught in a hoax. It is ridiculous they have, but it is still the same. Dyer has done the unbelievable walking these people down the plank
G.A., I see your point, but I think if the investors were going to step in they'd done so a long time ago.
I agree that this looks like more Dyer shenanigans, why would you announce a delay at the same time you were asking for sensitive information that required people to trust you?
He's going to come out laughing that we were all talking about him, blah, blah, but it's intersting that Noel and Barnes have bailed tonight.
I agree. All I was trying to do was give people something else to debate other than the typical shit flinging. If Rick had investors, they would have shut him up a long time ago. The argument I made to counter that notion was that Ricks world is really very, very small and maybe they didn't care or possibly didn't even know. Rick is no celebrity as much as he and others think he is. It was just food for thought and something to chat about. I don't think most got what I was saying though.
I get it...Dyer has that going for him: the weirder things get, the crazier he gets, the more he seems so off the charts, then the more you start to wonder if he really has a body.
In the end there are only a handful of people who 100% know the truth on this. I can be 99% sure that he is hoaxing and I, you, we, COULD, conceivably be wrong. Same goes for anything where you don't have all of the facts. 99% means I absolutely do not believe he ever had or shot a bigfoot. I have tons of proof from analytical thinking about the information that is available to me. I think critically and I don't speculate and state anything as fact, that in fact is not one. I can take everything I know about this and come away with a pretty solid belief that this is hoax 2013 for Rick. However, I wasn't there and neither were anyone else involved in these chats. This in no way means I think Rick Dyer, shot a bigfoot. And I hope this does not spiral into the same thing as my first post today. We are all here because we want to know beyond any shadow of a doubt. It is that SHADOW that we want confirmed or denied. Unless you were there, we all sit under that same shadow. I for one do not believe a word coming from Rick, But I could be wrong.
To clear up any more confusion, I believe Rick has been hoaxing from the minute we heard his name again in the bf community. I believe he has come to his wits end is cracking under the pressure of his lies. He won't be able to show a body, because there never was one. He at some point had to release a statement that this would be postponed and knowing that he will get shit even from his inside TT members he cancelled any further shows. I am still a non believer folks and only wanted to make people think. Sorry some of you didn't get what I was trying to do and thanks to those of you who did. I just wanted to further our conversation. I'll think twice before I ever do that again.
Becasue it is getting to him DS. How long would you hold up with a lie of this magnitude that you had to keep retelling everyday? I for one would have gone off the deep end months ago.
Remember the video Rick did a month or so ago, when it Looked like He was coming Clean? But He Laughed, and said He was the Best BF Tracker in the world! He could have come clean there? At the end of Rick's video about the delay, He encourages anyone who doesn't want to wait for the "UNKNOWN" Release date, to Jump ship.....What the Heck does He Expect?
He is obviously not a mentally stable individual. He is so damn paranoid Bc he still has officers and others close to him that could be providing info to the outside. His controlling actions go right along with his obvious mental problems. He is doing a textbook hoax by the book! He even postponed it!! Following the script to a T!!
DS, you are trying and reaching way too hard... " remember when it LOOKED like he was gonna come clean" etc are statements made by someone that wants to believe so bad. Dyer is a known hoaxer and he is following same script from 2008. And you are falling for both....
G.A., I agree with the others, the talk about "what if Dyer has a body' is futile and plays into the sick delusions of Rick's kool-aid followers. I, like many here, are trying to wake up the zombies and help prevent 'fresh meat' from falling into the Dyer web of lies.
I suggest instead of asking 'what if' he has a body, let's talk about what he might be planing next? Like I said before... he's desperate. Low on money and the man can't live out of the spotlight. He's going to do something crazy...I'm just curious to know what?
And DS...you consistently make the mistake of thinking Dyer is a normal person who will operate within the framework of other normal people. He is not... and this is what makes this so entertaining...the guy is totally nuts, yet he as a certain 'functional charisma." Thus, he attracts a following. He is a cult leader in the making and we are watching a Jim Jones in embryo. The only question is how far will he go?
Vegas Rob, I think I have no interest in what Dyer does after all this. I am here for one reason and one reason only. Bigfoot. When all of the smoke has cleared and there is no doubt left I walk away and you will never hear from me again. I don't care about Ricks personal life or saving the believer from Rick's clutches. They are adults and can make their own decisions. Once again I want an answer because we don't have one, regardless of the insurmountable piles that contradict everything Rick says. If like you say you are here to save the believers, you have to ask yourself why and then you must come to the conclusion especially after talking to people like DS that, that is impossible. Rick can stand up and say my bad at his next video conference, no Bigfoot, just an innocent hoax and there will still be some believers. The task you set yourself is futile
Also Vegas Rob, if you are afraid of the debate because believers will continue to believe, you are putting the same blinders on yourself that you claim the others are wearing. A good debate is what makes us human and is a trait of intelligent people. To shy away from one does your cause no favors.
Oh, don't misunderstand me it's not all about saving the believers. This is also a lot of fun. It's a real life, in real time mystery with a certifiable con man/cult like leader at the forefront. And...he's just so easy to dislike!
I'm the type of guy who NEVER posts anything anywhere. I don't even have a facebook page. But this story has captivated me for some of the reasons previously stated. Also, I do believe that Bigfoot exist and I was initially 'hopefully optimistic' when this whole tent video/shooting came out.
But, it didn't take long to realize a fraud was taking place.
Cool. I am the same. This is fun and my optimism on even the possibility that Bigfoot exists hings on this. The term I used on a previous blog was that I came out of Bigfoot curious hibernation over all of this. If this is a hoax, I will go back into hibernation. I don't believe for a second this is real, but I can have hope till the end right?
DS, did you ever see the Batman movie with Heath Ledger as the Joker? I don't remember the scene exactly...but Bruce Wayne was trying to understand a logical reason for the Joker's behavior? And Alfred responded by telling Bruce a story and then saying something like, "Some men just like to watch things burn."
Again, I can't remember exactly... but the gist was that for some sociopathic individuals there is no "rhyme or reason" for their behavior. They're simply NUTS!
And this ladies and gentleman fits our boy Dyer to a tee.
BTW, G.A. I have really enjoyed your post's on this and other blogs. I'm glad you've been involved. You have a lot of great input and I always look foreword to reading what you have to say.
Dyer has lost it. Just bashed Noel for not showing up 27mins approx. I thought he was about protecting them and has said they are monsters that should be killed. Best part is that his kid is right there while he is dropping f bombs left and right
Got a love it. So he's is claiming Bigfoot is a child eating monster and needs to be killed. Where do you think he comes up with this stuff? He would have nothing to back that up unless, he witnessed it himself and in multiple cases. People you can't make factual statements out of this air. Also sounds like he is being racist against bigfoot. Lumping All Bigfoot in as child killers. He is a pathetic waste of skin.
Hey, Folks! Check out Dyer's site. Looks like he's going 'meltdown' once again. He has a video of burning bigfoot items on a grill and promising 'big things' on tonights program! LOL
Rick Dyer really makes you want to reach out and slap the shit out of him. I can barely stand to listen to him. I can't believe he has any friends or anyone paying attention to him. He is now encouraging genocide of this creature all of a sudden. Why is he so anti bigfoot now? I think we all need to put Rick in the rear view mirror.
Just listened to the beginning of the production tonight and I have to say that Rick sounds like the haters have finally won! Just like any bully, you push back and they run away whining. No more shows, no more talking to the haters, all TT members stay off other boards, no body going to be shown, etc. And then he goes in to a rant about pro kill to distract us from the fact that he is a crybaby that want no more of the haters. We have won!!!!!
It went off the air and then he ended it. Since this has become just like a pro wrestling bit, it sounds like Rick has changed his tact to bigfoot being a monster that needs to be killed. This explains all of his actions lately because no one understands these monsters like him. Thus he pisses on books and acts a certain way. That is why so many of his followers have left, they don't understand the seriousness of these child eating monsters. I noticed porno dallas or wayne weren't on tonight. Last show I recalled he was asking them about talking to bigfoot. Tonight he seemed to say no one can communicate with them completely contradicting his two buddies and what was said. Still trying to wrap my head around how this new murderous beast angle will lead to no body being released. Not a very strong angle.
Ha. Looks like the NSA stepped in and shut him down. Mid speech handing the floor over to another TT member and boom. No more show. I can only say thank God!!!
I never really understood the term hater being thrown around, but I can say after what I saw, I hate that man. I hope his life is ruined by this and it's a never ending uphill battle to even find a job. This guy deserves every bit of spite thrown at him and I truly hope he pays for this in a big way. Really, what a shitty ending to this whole thing. Rick didn't shoot Bigfoot. Rick Dyer shot himself with his big foot in his mouth.
Rick Dyer! The hero and champion He will ave all our children from the child eating monster. Thankfully he warned us not to communicate with them or they would slaughter us
So Mr Frank Cali did Dallas actually call in the Bigfoots to finish you off? Ricks change of story makes your latest story look seriously foolish now doesn't it? When we you learn? Dumbass...
I don't think there is anything more to debate or to wait for concerning Dyer. I think we saw the end here tonight. You can't believe the people who are part of his show like this guy. You also have to believe many of them are now really starting to doubt him themselves. You got to wonder what his wife thinks about all of this. She has to know the truth. Unfortunately that means this site also wont have much purpose if this is the end. It would get rather boring to continue to hate on Rick when he disappears. I'd love to have a site where we can debate other things concerning BF, but not sure I can continue to be part of a conversation of a guy that just poured gasoline all over his head and lit a match. I guess we'll see where things go, but like I said, this may have been Dyers last hurrahh. It was great chatting with you all. Maybe I'll be back if there is something to come back for.
I have not seen that side of Dyer, and I must say he was a couple Taco's shy of a Combination Plate!! BF might be stealing Kids toys, but beating the Piss out of them, shaking them too hard, and taking their toys, Have you lost your Mind Rick?? Rick said that on this Expedition if He shot a BF, He would release it on TV, Immediately, What the Heck, Release Hank Already!! He acts Like He is going to postpone Hank until He shoots another one, or someone else does??? Rick seemed really confident that Hank still is going to be shown, and at the same time, He acts Like it's not...This whole entire Soap Opera has been Like that, A Little Proof Here, A little Lie here, A Little Eyewitness here, A Little Rumor Here, On and on.....I will say that Rick seems to be getting rid of those who are following Him, Slowly but surely....Book Pissing, Demands, Delays....is He Getting rid of us slowly, so when he reveals it's a Hoax, only 2-3 are left?? Is He going to keep doing Expeditions, until someone shoots one? Will He come out with Hank, and Prove everyone Wrong? I'm so mad right now I'm about 10/90!! But in Reality, Probably 40/60!
Dyeria of the mouth now found the Bigfoot house too? Maybe it was with Ark of the Covenant and Jimmy Hofa's remains. This guy has become a cartoon parody of himself. lmfao. This is a rant reaction to simply hate on Noel. Rick really needs mental help folks. I'm starting to feel guilty watching this mental illness unfold before us a little. After watching this spiteful rant it is obvious who is filled with hate. Rick please seek some help dude before you can't take it anymore and do something uhhhh...., worse?
I wonder if he will vanish on the next expedition... Run off to mexico with everyones cash and make it look like he was abducted and killed by a bigfoot..... seriously I would not be suprised if this happens!!!!
Rick has turned Vampire hunter...Er, huh, I mean Bigfoot hunter extreme!
Don't ya'll see what this noble man is doing? He is delaying the showing of Hank so he can go out into the world and eradicate Bigfoot once and for all!
The logic: since bigfoot is believed not to exist, Rick can exterminate at will. But, if he reveals the body...they will be deemed a 'protected' species and Rick will not be able to protect us from the "horror" that surely awaits.
Rick, the messiah! Just think, some day in a church way in the future, people may be praying to an image of this man.
Damn, what a noble man! To think he is giving up potentially millions of dollars so that he can make it his full time gig to hunt and kill that bastard Bigfoot!!!
I'm just glad he was able to talk sense to the investors. I'm sure they all realized how the fate of humanity was at stake and they agreed that all the millions wasn't worth the destruction that would be caused by the hordes of hairy "Lenny's" running around holding children too tight.(That was one of Dyers theories, that bigfoot was too rough in playing with children). LMAO!!!
Well DS, someone that changes his story with a lie here etc then acts like he did tonight clearly has a mental illness. Someone that acts like him can't be expected to tell the truth and probably isn't. I hope that you are starting to see this
WOW...and speaking of 'the horror!' can you imagine being Dyer's wife and watching this nut job up close??! She's got to be scared shitless!! This guy could turn Jack Nicholson in "The Shinning" any moment now.
Interesting for sure..I was kicked out of chat. Notice the over the top call to kill *the monster*. He then distanced himself from Noel and Barnes and TRASHED his lone legitimate supporters! THEN>>>He calls in the *good cop*>>>MUSKY! I now see how Musky fit's into Dyer's strategy. Musky proceeded to *diffuse* Dyer's tirade on Noel..nice touch!
My bet, Dyer is going to end up in jail. He can't seem to help himself. He keeps pushing to the extreme and he is obviously crazy. I'm afraid he's going to really hurt somebody before this is over. I just hope it's not his wife and kids.
Any of you TTers reading this...you need to get this freak some help before it turns bloody. Let the authorities know he's a ticking time bomb. His money is drying up and he is a prisoner to the spotlight. The Dude is totally delusional, he'll eventually snap!
I would LOVE to hear Chris Noël's thoughts on Dyer's hoax/kill now. I have conversed with Chris via email a couple times and I thought then as I do now, that he is a great person. I was taken aback when Chris came out with the book, and wholeheartedly backed Dyer's story. I can only hope Chris can now see the light and rely on his instinct and experience to weed out further conflicts.
Chris, if you read this, know we don't fault you, or think you are in on the hoax, you backing out of Dyer's show just proves you are seeking truth and justice. PLEASE drop us a quick note and tell us your thoughts on what ACTUALLY transpired.
I doubt he'll respond, everyone is scared to death of Dyer! He's a bully, willingly to make up anything about anybody. Unfortunately, people not speaking out only emboldens someone like Dyer. I wish more would stand up to him.
I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way (sincerely) but why is there such respect for people like Noel, and other Bigfoot trackers/researchers? My understanding is that these guys say, factually, that BF exists. That is simply not true. There is no concrete evidence that has ever been presented that would enable someone to factually state that BF exists. In fact, quite the contrary. The videos are 99.9% "blobsquatches" that could literally be anything under the sun. The DNA was just proven to be a hoax. Maybe not a hoax meant to hurt people, but rather someone wanting to believe so badly they misrepresent their research. I have watched every video the believers have told me to watch. I have read every article I could find about the DNA evidence. I have listened to the "bigfoot calls" and so on and so forth. There is just no legitimate evidence. Most hoax's, or assumptions are debunked by the bigfoot community itself which is even more interesting because there is no legitimate evidence to compare something to. The whole thing is so strange...
Dyer, I know you follow this blog so I'm going to give you some free advice. You have lost most of your followers and thus your income. You will have a REAL hard time ever perpetuating another hoax due to your obvious past. What to do? The way I see it there is only one thing to do:
Come out with the truth, no...not your truth...THE REAL TRUTH! Come clean and seek professional help with your sociopathic/con man behavior and write a tell-all book about yourself.
This will garner you some attention that you so love, put some cash in your pocket, and then you can be a professional "con man' debunker with your new found credibility!
Honestly, you don't have many options...but the longer you wait the worse it's going to get.
If he is a true sociopath, he has no conscience and is a lost cause. But if he is just a conman maybe he could follow your advice, although I doubt he will.
Anon 9:53. No disrespect taken. As I stated before, Chris Noël has been very respectful to me personally. I had a few questions, he answered timely and was forthright. I can NOT say the same for Mr. Dyer who has spewed forth disgusting language, beat a pregnant woman, urinated in public (self published on the Internet as well), I could go on and on. You state there has been no evidence, I say there is mountains. Who is right? Hopefully we can both be civil to say we both are wrong AND right. I personally respect Christopher Noël for researching, documenting, experimenting all avenues to do his part in solving this mystery. What if there is no bigfoot??? Is he not still worthy of respect? Maybe you should ask yourself about who is worthy of respect. You? Me? Dyer? Congress? Manson? Madonna? Really, how is Noël hurting you or I? I still respect him.
Thanks for the thoughtful response anon 10:10. I should clarify a bit...I certainly did not mean to imply he is not respectable as a person. I have never met, or spoken with him. I am sure he is a delightful person and I don't question that. I guess what I take issue with, and this is not an attack on Noel specifically, is the arrogance. Maybe it's just me, but that is how I read it. I think it's cool that someone has such a strong interest in a topic that they take the time to research, experiment, etc. But I cannot grasp how the "evidence" that has been gathered thus far can be looked at as anything but circumstantial. And even that is a stretch in my opinion. Yet they seem to have zero doubt and seemingly dismiss alternate theories because they do not confirm the existence of BF. That is why this whole Dyer thing got some traction isn't it? There was finally supposed to be some real concrete evidence...but as expected, it is a hoax and back to square one we go. Not looking to bash anyone, just makes for some interesting discussion... especially since this Dyer thing is losing steam.
I have to admit, I was crushed when the Ericsson project turned out to be a bust. How he and so many were fooled by hat horrible Wookie mask is beyond me. I think he wanted it to be true so bad. I'm glad that dyer is turning out o be another hoax. We need a respectable person who puts the actual work in to discover BF officially
The trouble there is you need a truly objective person. That is not easy to find. Most people do not believe in BF and the ones who do are fanatic about it. Anyone who has a pre-conceived notion that BF is real would likely take anything that could be deemed as evidence and try to pass it off as legitimate proof. Which is pretty much the current standard. So even if the person is respectable, as Noel may be, he is not objective.
That's sort of the point I am trying to make anon 10:30. Every single event that was supposed to be major in the discovery of BF has come up bust. And the other circumstantial evidence is generally so weak that you cannot prove or disprove anything. It is just a he said/she said scenario. Anyone can play me a tape with a little blurry blotch and some random screams claiming its a BF...but that doesn't make it so.
Maybe his reason for not showing the body will be that they are such vial monsters that they don't deserve any attention. Even dead ones should be completely eliminated from this earth.
Yes..in the final analysis there is no BF. It's just fascinating to see something like this. I must admit..Musky had me hooked at first, but it's now apparent he works for Dyer.
CATHIEE! CALLING CATHIEE!!! Where are you, girl? Er, I mean, guy...or whatever you are?
Dyer needs you! He's never needed someone as badly as he needs you now! Won't you come to his aid? Give him the kind of 'groveling' support only you can provide!
We know you would do anything for Dyer...ANYTHING. So go to him tonight...be the one shining star in an otherwise dark night for the heroic, but fallen leader.
DYER, didn't I tell you the clock was ticking? It's always ticking. Now, how many ticks before your ass winds up in jail? Let's begin shall we. TICK-TOCK, TICK TOCK, TICK TOCK...
Dyer, with the speed to which you're going through VP's I'll would like to "throw my hat" into mix for the next spot. I hear the pay is great, the environment uplifting, and the prestige incredible! I mean VP of Team Tracker...WOW! With that on my resume I could probably spring board over to being secretary of the 'Man-boy love' association!
So, we all know that sooner than later Frank is going to cheese you off somehow. Maybe he won't bow deep enough for your liking or smile big enough when he sees you. Either way keep me in mind for when that fateful day comes.
I have been trained by Cathiee and realize that some of the duties of the office is...well, uncomfortable to say the least. But I'm a trooper and will bring along my own bucket!
Please call me anytime. My number is...do you have a pen handy? Ok, then it's 1800-eat-shit. Got it? Good!
Cathiee Mcmillan is a fat hairy woman who has no life so she looks for one online. She married a woman online from Dinver on SL and they were madly in love. She got kicked out of every group and foroum she was in because all she wanted to do was start trouble. Then Enter Katherine into the bigfoot world and the same old sad story. Don't get me worng, she still occasionaly puts a dick in her mouth, but Katherine prefers fat pussy. Right KAtherine? typey typey type typey typey type
That was not porn I was watching.It was the Taterholing of Dick on the Expedition.If you look closely you can see a big grin on Dicks face.The scene that was on the podcast was right before John/Cathiee Preston blew out Dicks Taterhole.I have been reprimanded by Dick and Chris for y'all seeing part of the video.
I hope this helps clear things up for all TT Members.
PS.Dick blew out his chrome molly steel taterhole when testing it out with a Mickeys Big Mouth Bottle of Beer and has spent all the members money on a new titanium taterhole.We need to another benefit for Dicks Taterhole Rebuild.Just forward your money to Chris.We need your donations for a 5 gallon bucket of gear lube for the next Taterholing of Dick.Dick has promised Wayne the bucket after all the lube is used up.Dick is such a Saint.
So is that why the 'bigfoot unveiling' is being postponed? Is it due to Rick getting a new titanium taterhole and he will most likely be in recovery?
Let us know what you find out and you can count on my donation. And congrats to you Wayne on the new 5 gallon bucket! It appears X-mas will come early for you this year.
Impossible. Rick Dyer is the wolds best and only bigfoot tracker. Unless he tracked and killed it, it didn't happen. But if it did, that is one less child that will be played with too hard or have his toys stolen. God Bless Rick Dyer
Only Rick Dyer, the worlds greatest bigfoot tracker, know that bigfoot loves to kill children. This is evidenced by him finding bigfoots 1800 Sq foot home in the woods. In the master bathroom there is a pinewood derby track that circles around the room and ends in the bathtub. When the kiddies gonto retrieve their cars, he waterboards them, mind melds them, and eats them brain first. Such vile creatures. So what else was found in the child killers house? Please add to this post!
Too funny. Rick you clearly wrote the second one. Your command of the English language vernacular is outstanding (provided English is your second language). Don't you feel like an ass referring to yourself in the third person (like when you say Rick Dyer blahblahblah etc?) You really should because it is odd and unsettling all at once...
I bet ol' DS is out with his shotgun looking for the big hairy man as we speak.
And DS, for the love, if you do happen to shot one (this goes for everybody) take a picture right away and post it! Have the camera with you!
I am so sick and tired of every time someone claims to shoot a bigfoot they leave the body and come back and it's gone. Or, they have great film or photo's and they wait to write a book and make millions only to have the MIB shut them down and take the evidence!?
...I'm just glad Dyer, "The worlds greatest bigfoot tracker" was smart enough to do it right! Thank goodness he has a body and I'm sure it will released any day now.
I dont know...frank cali emailed me and said to hang in there, the haters were the reason for the postpone........and that is was not ricks fault......i have to wait to hunt bf on weekends......im going to set up my trail cam, had a fresh tree break right near my house.
Why would things be postponed because of the haters? I'm not sure I understand. If anything, he would expedite the release of the body to shut us all up. Now, by delaying it, he seems to have lost any credibility among his actual supporters, and the hate is coming on 10 fold.
Hey, Dyer! How's it looking for your Vermont expedition? I bet people are busting down the door to get in on that action, huh?
Too bad you couldn't keep what little bit of marbles you have left in your head. No, you had to go all out crazy didn't you? Well, it's costing you amigo!
I bet there is a good chance you cancel Vermont. You'll probably claim it's due to exciting events taking place in Texas.
Rick, I've just read your latest blog about what a brave man you are. Dude, for your sake, I hope you never awaken from your delusional state. Because if you do, you are going to be so 'freaking' embarrassed! Do you even have any inkling as to the huge JOKE that you have become?!
I've never seen anything like it? You are the lowest of the low. The king of clowns! No one will ever take you serious again. What a life...what a legacy.
For most people your statement of embarrassment would nail it right on the head. I was actually recently embarrassed to find out my friends could see I was posting on FBFB. Not that I wouldn't be ok with that if real proof someday arrives, but until then, my interest in Bigfoot is something I would rather mostly keep to myself accept anonymously. Rick and people like him in this field are exactly why I don't really want to be known for having an interest. Now Rick is invested and he is known for his being involved in Bigfoot, so he would never feel the embarrassment that I felt from something as simple as a post on a bigfoot FB page. But he absolutely should for acting not only like one of the biggest idiots we have ever seen and I mean that not in the generic sense, but he is truly a very stupid man. He is also very crazy. Not in the generic sense, but he is truly someone who if tested would never be let out of a mental institution again. He is also mean, cruel and heartless. Not in the generic sense, but in the sense that he is a scary person, that I would be afraid to turn my back on and he has never been afraid to show that side of him. He is without a doubt Bi-polar. Manic and then lowest of low. Mood swings that can only be seen to be believed. We believe he slit the neck of a poor innocent dog and he is now promoting genocide of a mythical creature, that supposedly now, out of the blue, eats children. I can barely put into words what I witnessed last night on his show. I cannot believe, everyone of those people didn't get up and walk out. That goes more to those who follow him loyally than anything that came out of his mouth. We saw one of the most pathetic excuses for human behavior that I think has ever deliberately been posted on Youtube, without the slightest inclination that they were completely off their rocker. If you didn't know better you would think drugs were involved, becasue I have only seen anything like that from a blackout person completely annihilated on some sort of drug or alcohol. I thought this hoax was fairly innocent up till last night, but now I see something entirely different. He is dangerous. We have definitely not heard the last of Rick Dyer and I predict, it will be in the form of some sort of story where he is taken out by the police, because the last remaining loose screw in his head gently, but with eagerness fell to the ground, just so it could claim not relation to the man it came from. I honestly don't care to ever witness something like that again. I do hope the retribution and fallout is swift for him. He deserves what he gets.
Here is a delectable quote from Dyer on his show last night where he is addressing what he'll do after he kills more Squatches:
"And I'd like to stack all the Bigfoots up, and I'd like to throw some gasoline or kerosene or diesel and burn them....(~3 second pause / blank stare)......Or put 'em in museums." 38:31-38:46
LOL....torch the bodies or put them on exhibit, one or the other! Way to think that through!
Yeah Rick, now that you have turned over a new leaf and you are only looking to save mankind from this hairy horror...why don't you reveal your find to prove to the world the truth of your story? At least you could release some photo's?
Just think, Rick. If you don't and some innocent person is killed...you could be ACCOUNTABLE FOR MURDER!!! Isn't that what you told Robert Lindsey?
You need to provide the evidence to warn people ASAP! Failure to do so could cost lives!!! Come on, Rick, practice what you preach. Show the world Hank as a warning to stay away from the woods.
Cathiee Mcmillan is a fat hairy woman who has no life so she looks for one online. She married a woman online from Dinver on SL and they were madly in love. She got kicked out of every group and foroum she was in because all she wanted to do was start trouble. Then Enter Katherine into the bigfoot world and the same old sad story. Don't get me worng, she still occasionaly puts a dick in her mouth, but Katherine prefers fat pussy. Right KAtherine? typey typey type typey typey type Better get back to work.
You did a good job standing up to Dyer last night and his lunatic 'Bigfoot Massacre' talk. You did it for one of 3 reasons... it was a planned good cop-bad cop routine, you saw yourself loosing control of your partner in crime, or you were really worried that Dyer is destroying his and your credibility, because there really IS a body.
If you were upset for that 3rd reason, and there IS a body you saw, then why wouldn't you come forward and try to keep the story from looking as ridiculous as it does now, instead of staying connected to him and always just reacting to whatever he does?
In other words, do you really care anymore if we believe you, or are you like Dyer, and think everything he does is OK because there's a body and it all will work out in the end?
Remember that your report on the body was an important part of many people's belief in the story, maybe the only part in some cases.
There's a good way to get to the end as well as a bad way, and Dyer is choosing the very worst way. Why take the same path? Please consider making some public statement that helps us understand how you are connected to Dyer now and whether you can offer any further testimony to balance the complete loss of credibility Dyer has caused you to suffer.
If you don't speak now, you now appear to just be his accomplice in a hoax, and maybe that matters to you or maybe it doesn't. If it does, please let us hear from you.
Yes, classic *GOOD COP BAD COP* played out last night. I even PMed Musky in the chat room and used that exact terminology with him! His job was to diffuse Dyer's INSANE TIRADE against Noel and Barnes.
OK..so, according to Dyer, the body will be released >>>OUT OF NEVADA in another state. A *LV CASINO* bought the body and it's now being released in another state....LOL. Just thought we should state the obvious here.....aside from the fact he's buying time.
BTW, just how long has Musky been involved in the bigfoot community? When did this supposed skeptic first arrive on the scene?
Maybe, Dyer and Musky had this hoax planned out longer than most people think. Did Musky just appear out of nowhere 6 months before the Hank story broke? I don't know, but I could see him being a Dyer 'plant' to add legitimacy. You know, playing the role of a skeptic months before and people think that he's been around for years.
I wouldn't doubt if he and Dyer had this plan laid out a long time ago.
It's really interesting watching this whole thing unfold. I don't believe in BF so this was a hoax from the get-go in my eyes. BUT, I was really intrigued by Dyer. The man is clearly crazy and a really bad liar, but highly entertaining at the same time. But, even that has become so redundant its losing its comedic edge for me. I have actually found the most interesting piece of this puzzle to be his followers. I've had lots of life experiences, but I have never witnessed people just blindly follow someone who is so obviously out of his mind. And not just follow, but defend him with every fiber of their being. Now granted, there are likely a handful who are in on the hoax and so i wouldn't consider them to be in this group. They are probably receiving some form of compensation. But you have people like Doctor Squatch, Cathiee and all those random people that are present during Dyer's video chats. I just cannot grasp people being this gullible. It literally does not make sense to me. Are they just looking for acceptance and it has nothing to do with BF? Were they really taken in by Dyer and his cult like behavior? Are they so desperate to believe/prove BF is real that they will latch on to anything?
Anyone care to weigh in on the psychological profile of these people? I really don't get it, but I am very intrigued and would like to understand more about it.
I hope another Ed Smith-esque hoaxer comes along after this Dyer crap blows over. I mean Good Ol 'Ed did it up right, long back story, pressure switches, air powered hatches, ex seal team members on hire, codes, on call veterinarians, tranquilizers, motion detecting heat sensing cameras, and multimillionaire benefactors. NOW THAT WAS A HOAX!
Dyer is a failure, failure for TT, failure for Haters, failure as a hoaxer, failure as a husband (wife beater) failure as an expedition leader (heart attack anyone), what can this idiot do right? Besides piss on a $40 dollar book.
He's like a real life 'Joker!' That's why I call him the "CLOWN KING!" It fits, with that clown mobile he drives around and the circus atmosphere he creates.
Did you catch any rain on your drive home to Watertown? Poor thing, it's gonna rain most of the week. At least you don't have that long of a drive! Have you been to Curves lately? Great place to workout.
True dat! He is a low-level hoaxer. The only people he was able to sell this hoax to were sub-human bottom dwellers! Let's face it, many of us were intrigued when the story first broke but it didn't take long for most of us to see it for what it was...a poor hoax.
But what amazes so many of us is how absolutely dense and easily fooled this small,delusional group that still worship at the feet of Dyer!?
Can you believe he still has a following at this point? That there are people still sending him money and going on expeditions with this con man? And now he has sent out executive orders demanding his cult followers to abstain from looking at other sites and they must send him their 'personal' information? UN-FREAKIN'-BELIEVABLE!!!
Can you say 'Jim Jones'? Can you say 'Heavens Gate'? Yeah, this isn't going to end well!
As someone on this site once said, "on this upcoming expedition, I would advise you NOT to drink the kool aid.
This is a GREAT article regarding the misinformation Ketchum keeps trying to put forth. I imagine there is overlap with regards to Dyer and Ketchum supporters. DS and Cathiee have vigorously defended her in the past and so I urge you to read this. It is based in science. Nothing more, nothing less. The whole piece is a great read, but page 3 is really poignant.
This direct quote from Ketchum has to be my favorite part...
"There's groups of people called habituators. They have them living around their property. And they interact with them, but they're highly secretive because one, people think they're crazy when they say they interact with bigfoot—and I prefer Sasquatch by the way, but bigfoot's easier to say. Finally a group of them came by and said "you want to see 'em? we'll take you and show you." And they did. The clan I was around was used to people and they were just very, very easy to be around—they're real curious about us, and they'd come and look at us, and we'd look at them."
Rick! RICK!! Quick! A bigfoot just ran off with my child! They are playing very roughly with each other in a vacant lot next to a Lowe's in San Antonio! Come quick! I'll get a homeless woman to place a 911 call now to validate the claim!
......HURRY!! They are no longer playing checkers they are now playing touch-football. It's going to turn into tackle before long!
Bring baby keys, ribs, your rifle, duct tape and your flashlight so you can strap it to the end of your gun in case night falls before you get here,...don't forget the reefer truck (and get a RECEIPT for 'reefer truck guy!), make sure federal agent lady is available, and put Musky on notice he has to be available next week to verify the body!
Well it seems Rick has finally flipped his lid. As the money runs out Rick will continue to get crazier and crazier and if no one goes on his Vermont trip everyone is going to see Rick go insanity crazy.
You know, the government has been raiding the homes of people that have mental issues and own firearms in an effort to prevent some of the things that happened like school shootings. In fact raids have been going on all over the country and firearms removed. If someone were to report rick to the fbi stating that he is mentally unstable (true) and that he owns a firearm (also true) and that we think he is or already has gone over the edge (we all agree on this) then they WILL do something. I garuntee it.
I don't know about that...I suppose it's possible but it seems like they would have to have an expert opinion. If he hasn't made any threats against people, I don't know what reason they could use. On the other hand, raving about killer Sasquatch could be interpreted as unstable.
Hey, I am just looking out for the kids cause Dyer is gone off the edge, he's talking about going hunting for a mythical beast and I am pretty sure all his talk about kids is not healthy.
Can you imagine those little Mexican-children of Dyers (if they are Dyers) how messed up they are going to be? I mean living with a Dad like that???? I mean he is raising a whole new generation of Mexican used car dealing ebay-fraud scamming bigfoot shooting con men. I feel sorry for them.
I am witty am I not? I think this is why Dyer doesn't like me so much. Oh that and the fact that I am on his team and he cant find me.
Well, assuming they are the children of Dyer they would be American MH. Sometimes children strive to be what their parent(s) aren't- let's hope that is the case.
That was all new to me when I first came here....I haven't looked into it with everything else going on...I think I saw the Pic...I first thought He made a fake Pic to get a bunch of Hits on youtube? Has Dyer said anything about the Pic?
I don't have time to go through it. I more worried about Rick, than Melba. I did read the first page, but 2 more, whew! It seemed from what I read that it was an attack on how the Evidence was Prepared, not on what the Evidence showed. If you can discredit the manner in which it was Prepared, You can make the Evidence seem wishy washy. She didn't spend 5 years researching something Bogus!
Well, yes it appears that she did spend 5 whole years researching something bogus. You should really read the whole article. It gets quite detailed. She disregarded every bit of evidence that would discredit her conclusion.
It is very similar to what happens with all Bigfoot research and sightings, etc. People see what they want to see and they ignore all the things blaring them in the face saying, YOU ARE WRONG, THIS IS NOT A BIGFOOT.
Not to mention she claims to have access to an entire "clan" of BF, with whom she is on good terms with, by the way. Yet she cannot seem to provide a definitive piece of evidence from that whole clan. Weird, huh?
Wasn't she also a devout supporter of the Erickson footage which was proven to be a hoax? Interesting.
It does relate to Dyer in that a hoax is a hoax is a hoax. Now it appears someone in Oklahoma is claiming to have captured a live Bigfoot. He claims to have sent out DNA evidence. The story was not supposed to be leaked but since it has been they wont be sitting on it for long. They plan to release HD footage very soon....Now, where have I heard that before?...I can't place it...
Dyer is making up all this delay stuff to stick it to the haters. He wanted to have a big laugh when the body is revealed on August 15, and he knows if he says its delayed that's the one thing the haters will declare victory over.
He can't suddenly have total control when he had no control yesterday, so it makes sense (to us) that its all made up. The problem is, but no one will dare ask Rick, is why he would be so far away in Vermont just before the body is released. If you're as paranoid as Dyer you wouldn't risk it coming out sooner. Everyone is very worried about that not making sense.
Another problem is that Noel is being attacked for getting closer to Dyer, with people telling him he's being set up. So the delay video was bad timing, because it scared Noel and made him write a snooty message backing him and Jack Barnes out of the show last night, which pissed off Dyer and started all the award burning and kill-Bigfoot stuff on the show.
So a day that had started as bash the haters and trick them into thinking we moved the date, with Dyer not even appearing (officially) on the show with Musky, Noel, and Barnes, became a Dyer-only bash Noel show, and the kill all the Bigfoots stuff was meant to get back at him.
But Musky wasn't expecting that, and called in to try and salvage things. The issue now is that Dyer is saying Sunday morning that he has total control of the body and has the support of his investors, but by the end of the day his focus has been shifted to Bigfoot genocide. Not exactly the kind of well-adjusted individual anyone would let control the news of the century. That was always a joke, but to appear insane the same night you say you've taken over control of a $50 million body's release to the world is...bad timing.
Notice on the show how Musky is even questioning the delay video, like Dyer has pulled that without running it past him. Makes it an obvious made-up tactic. So there's concern that Musky blew the cover on that, so he's doing damage control today, while the Team Tracker members who knew nothing had changed are now REALLY wondering how their insane boss is going to get away with being out of town right before the body is revealed without it somehow "breaking" early. But those are the kinds of questions they don't dare ask.
There are at least five people on the team who say they are there now just to keep the flow of information moving to the outside. One is close to Rick but the others are on the edges. They're afraid to leave on their own and hoping Dyer will cut them, which goes better for departing members. They all think Cali is an idiot but no one will step up and especially no one will lie for Dyer like Cali will. That's why Cali is VP...Dyer can't stand him but he will do anything Dyer wants. Everyone pretty much thinks Dyer is insane but that maybe he is telling the truth about the Bigfoot and all the other lies are just what he does.
None of that stuff matters. You cannot keep a body from decomposing for almost a year with some magical powder! We were told very clearly it was not embalmed, and even if it were, they would have to hire full time people to maintain the body multiple times a week. And we know it has not gone under the process of plastination. These are the only options for keeping a body from decomposing over the long term. This is definitive proof that we are dealing with a fake, or no body at all. Beyond that, nothing matters...
My mole is telling me that more and more TT members are leaving, dyer is beyond paranoid and apparently Chris is wising up and questioning Dyer. Dyer got wind of Chris asking questions. The member that Chris was talking about this with was recently booted. Hopefully Chris will come to the obvious conclusion soon
Down goes TT. This is beautiful! I really liked mata haris comments on Lindsay's blog. Rick is losing it
ReplyDeleteSo what can we garner from the postponement? I sometimes chat with a team tracker member and asked him what his thoughts were and am waiting a response. I am hopeful it will give me insight, but wont share that unless he is ok with it. Anyway my thoughts are if you are a believer, this is the worst news you could hear at this juncture. The haters have been claiming this would inevitably happen for a long time and gives what we have been saying all along more weight. However after thinking about this for a moment, for the non believers, this could actually be something more than Rick padding his getaway. If in fact there were ever investors, maybe, just maybe they got wind of old Dyer and his rants and they are finally stepping in to shut him up. Seems like that step should have been taken a long time ago, but possibly they weren't aware of his goings ons and now that they know, they are taking action. I still don't believe Rick has a Bigfoot body. In Dr squatches use of percentages, I started off a little less than 50/50 and that deteriorated to a 10/90 and finally a 1/99 and that is a very weak 1. This though, in my mind anyway is the closest thing to reality to come from the Dyer camp ever, in my opinion. That's what an entity would do. They would jump in, muzzle Rick, take any date off the table and quickly create some legitimacy on any buzz. Rick Dyer is a legitimacy buzzkill and a wart on the community. If Rick had investors, he most likely signed his rights away for a dollar amount and is only in name associated with the body. Just wanted to share another way of looking at this and no I have not changed my mind on this being a hoax. Yet.
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Lets take that a step further. If what I am saying is true, than Rick has only been under the illusion that this is his body. Investors put up the money for the testing, promotion and write Rick a check. Rick relinquishes his rights to any further profit directly from the body, except in books, documentaries etc. Rick being the dumbass he is still thinks he is in charge. If big money were brought in as in investors and attorneys and such, Rick becomes the small man in the back of the room. Sure they would parade him around and such, but he is not even remotely in charge of what happens next. Rick now realizing this is extremely upset. Rick likes being big man and this is a huge blow to his ego. Anyway, once again, I think this story and post of the postponement is the single most credible thing to come from this whole story. Do you follow me?
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There are no *investors*>>>get it?
DeleteYep..huge hoax from the get go. I would like to know what Musky's role was in all this? He's either a SHILL for Dyer or Dyer has a pretty good fake..just not good enough to pass muster with the likes of>>>DEREK RANDLES, who was promised a viewing and never got one.
Today's news on postponement is a harbinger for the DEATH of this long protracted hoax.
If you have followed me at all, you know I am one of the biggest screamers of this is a hoax crowd. My point is that the news of the date being postponed and Rick's show going off the air means one of two things. One Rick is hitting the road or two Someone who has the rights finally stepped in and said enough is enough Rick. We can have debates where we each call each other names or we can discuss logically the events as they unfold. That's why we're here. To see what happens in the end.
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Or his investor is JREF http://www.randi.org
DeleteIt's odd timing that they are having their annual meeting in Las Vegas this week.
http://www.amazingmeeting.com/
GA, I am not looking to call names, or create any tension. But I have to say I am kind of disappointed in you. All along you have been the voice of reason and logic. Now you think there may be investors? Unless you think investors would give money to a conman without seeing a body or verifying that it is real, how would this even enter your thought process?
DeleteWhy would there be investors if there is no body? I understand what you are doing, trying to look at every logical possibility...but that is not logical to me because you would need to assume he has a body to even come to that line of thinking...
You don't understand what I was doing. I was trying to create a conversation, a dialogue and I was playing the devils advocate. I was purposely taking Ricks side even though I don't believe it in order to stimulate a conversation. You have to read everything I say, not just the first few words and then respond. Of course there would have to be a body to have investors. My point was assuming he had a body and investors it would have always been in their best interest to put a muzzle on Rick. I don't believe that is what's happening now, I put it out there. I should have not assumed the people here were interested in an intelligent conversation. The pro Rick group never had anything to debate with. All I was doing was giving them something. Sorry I did that here.
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I fully understand what you are doing. But ultimately that argument needs to rest on Dyer actually having had a body. So why even put it out there? What is the sense in discussing something that is an impossibility? The only thing that may come of this is some Dyer supporter will take what you say out of context and that you are now unsure and think Dyer may have a body.
DeleteOnce again the only reason we are here is because the debate is whether there is a body or not. Why are you here? If you had no interest in this one way or another I am sure you could be doing better things right now. I can't be responsible for what a supporter thinks if they can't understand what I am saying. I am not here to hold the supporters hand with a dictionary and a thesaurus. I said I have 99% assurance that this is nothing more than a hoax and a weak 1% at that in the i don't know area. The truth is, no one but Rick Dyer knows the full truth and that is why we are all sticking around to see what happens next. 99% puts me pretty squarely in the doubters circle
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I like the way you think G.A. I get it. Pay no attention to the weak minded ones who obviously don't. Keep it up. we like you here
Delete"Why would there be investors if there is no body?"
DeleteThe JREF org would pay to make fools out of the BF community. And I can't think of a better person to do that than Rick Dyer. This hoax has been well planned from the beginning the little details like FBFB and Musky, and Rick is just not that smart.
G.As point people was that out of all statements and hearsay and lack of evidence so far, the only real credible thing to come our way is Rick stopping his show and the date being postponed. He is not saying Rick is not hoaxing still, he is saying that if there was a body and there were investors, that is exactly what they would. Shut Rick up. Gosh people, don't be so dense. And yes like annonymous above, keep it up G.A
DeleteLet me get this one for you G.A. If there was no body of course there would be no investors!!!! In order to debate you must make an assumption on one side or the other. For the believers the assumption is that there is a body, for the non believers the assumption is there is no body. You are not very bright man 5:38. You can't have one without the other. No body, no investors. You can't argue with stupid.
Delete5:55 - I may not be very bright but at least I'm quicker than you. What I'm suggesting is that they are paying him to run a hoax. Think about motives for a second. The money he's making is chump change the original silver memberships were only $5 even with a few thousand members that won't get him very far in Mexico. The only other option is to just humiliate people and who would pay him to do that?
DeleteHe has no body and his increasing paranoia only gives that fact more juice. His NDA's aren't real. Why would his investors let some random car wrap guy see the body without conducting a proper background check on that individual first? Rick just brought him on a whim. This is a busted hoax
ReplyDeleteThis would also make sense from the standpoint that nothing else has made sense.
ReplyDelete1)The NDAs that don't keep you from saying anything
2)Random people with no credentials being allowed to see the top secret body.
3)His own blogs that have nothing to do with Bigfoot and everything with slandering others.
4)People like Christopher Noel sticking his head into the Rick Dyer bear trap.
5)Zero tangible evidence other than the only thing Rick still has the rights to (Tent video)
This list could go on and on. Like I said, nothing has made sense coming from the Dyer camp and it all leads us to believe hoax. If however and I hope you all realize I am playing devils advocate here with this idea, there were investors Rick has never been in charge and has made everything up from NDAs to showing the body. He has a false sense of power and since the investors were up till now letting him say whatever he wanted, he was making it up as he went. The oddest thing for me in this has always been if there were investors, how in the world could they sit back and let Rick make a mess of things.
I know it seems I have changed teams but I have not. I just believe this is how it should have gone from the beginning if investors were really involved. Shut Rick up and take away his keys. I also think it could be a good debate.
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GA, you are starting to sound like DS
ReplyDeleteYes no investors. This is an obvious hoax. Put your energy somewhere else. Maybe you want there to be a body, but you are sounding silly
ReplyDeleteI guess you all are only reading the first few words I am writing and then responding. Yes I still think this is a hoax. Unlike DS I am using a logical premise to make a point. This point has not swayed me to the believer camp, but I think it can be one which is debated.
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GA, I get what u are saying and it is an interesting thought but I will play the game. If Rick was to get investors he would have had to convince them of his credibility and signed a contract that pretty much gave away his rights to the body from the get go. This contract would have been drafted by real attorneys. He would have this much co trol for so long making a mess with this without them pulling the plug. Also how did he get these investors??? An audience with this much money???
DeleteI still think this is a hoax. However as a devils advocate. Ricks investors were there at the get go once he showed the body. Your right, he loses all rights with the exception of books etc in the future, but the body is not his anymore. Somehow said investors were not aware Rick was caring on the way he has and was left alone up until now. The world is not buzzing over Rick Dyer, it is an extremely small circle, the BF community, so they weren't concerned. I am not even saying this is likely. I am only saying that this is the first and only thing that ever leaned towards this being real. Shutting Rick up. Like I said he is either silencing himself or he is being silenced. Since Rick doesn't know how to shut up, him being silenced gains some credibility.
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Thank you RacerX for making us more room! Good luck on your recovery. Our thoughts are with you.
ReplyDeleteI think this 'postponement' is yet another trick for Dyer, he reads ALL these blogs, and the topic of the day was the 'inevitable' delay of the release. I have a small voice in the back of my head saying this is Dyer giving us EXACTLY what we want. Why? Maybe because the "press conference" will be this week. Perhaps it's yet another ploy to weed out the legion of moles working on the inside to give us info. Whatever it is, it ain't what it's proclaimed to be.
I was thinking the same thing. I said a Month or so ago, that Rick was going to be Stirring the Fire for the Haters, and doing off the wall stuff, He even said so himself. It would be funny if Pinkfoot and David never Left, Just made up stuff to get the Haters to say everyone is Jumping ship! Why haven't they SAID ANYTHING?? We have others saying that they said some stuff (Hearsay) But, we have not heard from them?? I hope this is a Joke. I typed a Letter to Frank Cali Last week, to Post on Rick's site, about How I support Rick...I Emailed Frank today, and told Him after Hearing the Delay of the Body, I do not want my Story Published.
DeleteI think you can answer your own question why Pinkfoot and David have kept their mouths shut. Dyer is insane. Look at the posts and videos he has posted against people already? When you have more to lose than the other guy you move on. They know the end of this thing is coming and they want nothing to do with Rick, probably out of fear of what he is capable of.
DeleteThink about it, They could remain Anonymous, Just like you, and no one would ever know it was them. They could Expose it all!
DeleteHow's that for Logic GA!
How would a person remaining anonymous, saying anything on either side be credible DS? With that logic I could put up a post without my G.A initials and say I am so and so and make anything up and you will believe it.
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Hey rick, just Bc ur paranoid, don't mean there not after you
ReplyDeleteHad this been real, Dyer wouldn't have been able to discuss it. His investors who would legally and rightfully own the body, would had NDA'd his dumb loud mouth
ReplyDeleteExactly, so Rick finally shutting up is the only pro Rick Dyer evidence we have EVER gotten. Nothing to this point has been pointing in his favor until him being silenced. Is he silencing himself or is someone else doing it? That is the question.
DeletePeople: Most posts just go back in forth with Ricks a hoaxer, Rick's telling the truth, you suck, no you suck. I am trying to create a real dialogue.
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GA...
ReplyDeleteGood God man...take a step BACK and look at this mess!
Does this entire bizarre episode really make sense to you?
A supposed BF is killed almost a year ago (while FILMING a movie!) and all we have is stonewalling and secrecy? One of the greatest discoveries of ALL TIME in his *possession* ALL THIS TIME and all we get is a *dog and pony show*? Do you really think this would be the outcome if someone REALLY HAD A BF ON ICE?? Not only that, NO LEAKS?? I'm telling you>>>the academic community would be absolutely a BEHIVE OF CHATTER with a BF being tested by University personnel and scientists. There is NO WAY a ridiculous *NDA* could keep a lid on a story like this is ACADEMIA.
This latest postponement and change of venue>>>AT THE LAST MINUTE??? I mean, why didn't they do this several months ago..why NOW??? Isn't it obvious to you by now DYER is>>>BUYING TIME with this ploy?? COME ON MAN....wake up and smell the COFFEE!!!
Dude, I have made all of those points and more. I completely believe this is a hoax. If you are going to respond to me at least read what I have written. You are singing to the choir man with everyone of your points. My point is Rick shutting the hell up and going off the air and any release date being taken off the table is the only credible thing in this whole debacle. Is he silencing himself or is he being silenced? We all know Rick is a ego maniac that cannot shut his mouth and we all can guess that if he ever really did shoot a bigfoot he would have zero control over a release. Is this evidence that he shot a bigfoot? NO not in the least! My point is that this is the ONLY thing that has ever leaned towards a non hoax and that is shutting up Rick. This was supposed to be a debate. You can't school me on this as anyone who has followed me knows I have screamed as loud as anyone on all of the inconsistencies and bullshit to come out of this.
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The issue I have with your "devil's advocate" theory is that you need to assume there is actually a real body for it to make sense. There would be no investors without a body. Since there is no body (let's be realistic here), I cannot get on board with that discussion.
DeleteThe whole friggin debate is whether there is a real body!!!! That is why we are all here. Some believe, some don't, but we are all here to debate whether or not there is a body. Please look up what devils advocate means.
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Devils advocate is not a theory dumbass anonnymous. G.A was playing devils advocate as in arguing the other side in order to create a dialog. And he is right, the debate is whether or not there is a body. To argue yes, there needs to be a body. To argue hoax, no body. G.A knows what he is doing here.
DeleteI have read G.A post for several weeks now and he honestly is one of the only people here that know how to use logic. I knew exactly what he was doing when I read his first post up at the top. Seems the dumb people are on both sides of the fence. Keep it up G.A, without you these people FAIL.
DeleteThanks guys. I should have known to not have gone there in the first place, but I thought....well I wont say it
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Chris Noel and Jack Barnes just announced that they will not be appearing on the show tonight, siting Rick's odd behavior around this postponement. Even his fellow hoaxers are finding his behavior too extreme to deal with, lol.
ReplyDeleteHow did you hear of this (on Noel and Barnes)?
DeleteChris Noel posted it on facebook
Deletecan you post the comment?
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DeleteStatement by Jack Barnes and Christopher Noël
Due to Rick Dyer’s highly problematic announcement earlier today, we are unable to take part in tonight’s scheduled round table discussion. We find that the announcement was written in such a manner as to create much more confusion and ill will than existed when we agreed to appear. The new atmosphere is certainly not conducive to a fruitful discussion.
The announcement is sloppily articulated and full of opaque statements, which will only add fuel to the ongoing heated and toxic debate within the Sasquatch research community.
We will be delighted to participate in the round table discussion at a future date, when Mr. Dyer finds himself able to clarify his statements, for the benefit of all, and thus to improve the general conversational atmosphere.
Love it and hope it is true. I hope the whole lot turn on Rick and he falls completely apart while the camera is running. We should all jump on over to Rick Dyers FB page and say hello.
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WHY THEN? Why do another Hoax and Ruin the rest of your Life? And Take down a few with you, Musky, FB/FB, Chris, Frank, Etc.....WHY? And don't say that's what Sociopath's do.
ReplyDeleteYou can't really answer that because you can't get into Dyer's mind. Just because I don't have a satisfactory *answer* for your question, doesn't mean that the lack of such an answer bolsters his story. That's simply fallacious reasoning.
DeleteThere is OVERWHELMING circumstantial proof that this is hoax..and now, with the long predicted ploy of>>> LAST MINUTE POSTPONEMENT (READ: BUYING TIME!), we can see this is indeed a hoax. As pointed out earlier...why didn't they change the venue from Vegas some time ago? Why wait until the LAST MINUTE (so to speak) to do so? He's>>>BUYING TIME!!!
It IS what sociopaths do. Normal people wouldn't do it but a sociopath would. Normal people can't believe liars can actually be THAT GOOD at lying, but they are.
DeleteWhy another hoax? Besides the income, he gets satisfaction from conning people.
I didn't ask you for a Satisfactory answer, or any other Type of answer...I just asked if anyone knows why someone would do that to themselves and others...Well, the others Claim He's telling the Truth, So they want to Ruin Themselves too? I don't get it?
ReplyDeleteHow about milking people out of there money? Sounds like a good theory to me. This guy doesn't even believe in BF. Neither do I, but that is besides the point. Once he saw what pawns most BF believers are he figured it was a great way to con people out of there money. He did it in 2008, then started these bogus expeditions, and starting charging people to be a part of his little group. Whoever posted about BF believers being cult-like in the previous thread is dead on. They will believe anything you say or do as long as it confirms their belief. So, either these other people were in on it and getting paid, or they are just sheep and will do anything Dyer says because he is their cult leader.
DeleteYes..but THAT has been used an argument as to why Dyer would not hoax this time. That was my point and why asking that question can only be answered by Dyer himself.
DeletePerhaps he has put the postponement on his blog and then sent out emails to different TT members saying that the body will be released on a certain date or that the body will be shown in a certain city. Then he can figure out who the leak is because each one is getting different info.
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Delete^^^ Heaven's Gate Cult Member
DeleteDyer obviously isn't that smart and now he is getting ideas from us by reading this.
DeleteIt was already posted but in case you couldn't scroll down to see it. Check out the google hangout Dyer did the other night. If you look closely at the 1:09-1:11 mark you will see either Dallas or Wayne full screen with a porno going on in the background. Right before he cuts off of being full screen there is even some doggy style action. That is priceless.
ReplyDeleteLol i saw that as well. TT money going to good use. I bet he was watching it so he could telepathically communicate with a bigfoot in order to put him in heat, this procreating
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ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FHdD_yBfKHw#t=4223s
Thanks that is so damn funny. At least it wasn't kiddie porn haha. It might be none other than Peter North giving it to that chick. What idiot doesn't turn the porn off during a webcast. He went from no running water to porn on the tube. I guess he blows his load in the same bucket he craps in
ReplyDeleteThat's Funny, I don't care who you are!
ReplyDeleteThese people ( Barnes, Noel and musky) are not profits and they've got caught in a hoax. It is ridiculous they have, but it is still the same. Dyer has done the unbelievable walking these people down the plank
ReplyDeleteG.A., I see your point, but I think if the investors were going to step in they'd done so a long time ago.
ReplyDeleteI agree that this looks like more Dyer shenanigans, why would you announce a delay at the same time you were asking for sensitive information that required people to trust you?
He's going to come out laughing that we were all talking about him, blah, blah, but it's intersting that Noel and Barnes have bailed tonight.
I agree. All I was trying to do was give people something else to debate other than the typical shit flinging. If Rick had investors, they would have shut him up a long time ago. The argument I made to counter that notion was that Ricks world is really very, very small and maybe they didn't care or possibly didn't even know. Rick is no celebrity as much as he and others think he is. It was just food for thought and something to chat about. I don't think most got what I was saying though.
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I get it...Dyer has that going for him: the weirder things get, the crazier he gets, the more he seems so off the charts, then the more you start to wonder if he really has a body.
DeleteIn the end there are only a handful of people who 100% know the truth on this. I can be 99% sure that he is hoaxing and I, you, we, COULD, conceivably be wrong. Same goes for anything where you don't have all of the facts. 99% means I absolutely do not believe he ever had or shot a bigfoot. I have tons of proof from analytical thinking about the information that is available to me. I think critically and I don't speculate and state anything as fact, that in fact is not one. I can take everything I know about this and come away with a pretty solid belief that this is hoax 2013 for Rick. However, I wasn't there and neither were anyone else involved in these chats. This in no way means I think Rick Dyer, shot a bigfoot. And I hope this does not spiral into the same thing as my first post today. We are all here because we want to know beyond any shadow of a doubt. It is that SHADOW that we want confirmed or denied. Unless you were there, we all sit under that same shadow. I for one do not believe a word coming from Rick, But I could be wrong.
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To clear up any more confusion, I believe Rick has been hoaxing from the minute we heard his name again in the bf community. I believe he has come to his wits end is cracking under the pressure of his lies. He won't be able to show a body, because there never was one. He at some point had to release a statement that this would be postponed and knowing that he will get shit even from his inside TT members he cancelled any further shows. I am still a non believer folks and only wanted to make people think. Sorry some of you didn't get what I was trying to do and thanks to those of you who did. I just wanted to further our conversation. I'll think twice before I ever do that again.
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If there was a Delay, Wouldn't you wait until the Last Minute to tell people, Keep us going as Long as Possible?? He could have Kept me til the 15th??
ReplyDeleteBecasue it is getting to him DS. How long would you hold up with a lie of this magnitude that you had to keep retelling everyday? I for one would have gone off the deep end months ago.
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Remember the video Rick did a month or so ago, when it Looked like He was coming Clean? But He Laughed, and said He was the Best BF Tracker in the world! He could have come clean there? At the end of Rick's video about the delay, He encourages anyone who doesn't want to wait for the "UNKNOWN" Release date, to Jump ship.....What the Heck does He Expect?
DeleteHe is obviously not a mentally stable individual. He is so damn paranoid Bc he still has officers and others close to him that could be providing info to the outside. His controlling actions go right along with his obvious mental problems. He is doing a textbook hoax by the book! He even postponed it!! Following the script to a T!!
ReplyDeleteThe 5 stages of a bigfoot hoax
ReplyDeletehttp://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-wisdom-of-guy-edwards-5-stages-of.html?spref=fb&m=1
DS, you are trying and reaching way too hard... " remember when it LOOKED like he was gonna come clean" etc are statements made by someone that wants to believe so bad. Dyer is a known hoaxer and he is following same script from 2008. And you are falling for both....
ReplyDeleteIf you watch the Video, Rick was MAKING IT LOOK LIKE HE WAS COMING CLEAN.....YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDNT SEE THE VIDEO!
DeleteG.A., I agree with the others, the talk about "what if Dyer has a body' is futile and plays into the sick delusions of Rick's kool-aid followers. I, like many here, are trying to wake up the zombies and help prevent 'fresh meat' from falling into the Dyer web of lies.
ReplyDeleteI suggest instead of asking 'what if' he has a body, let's talk about what he might be planing next? Like I said before... he's desperate. Low on money and the man can't live out of the spotlight. He's going to do something crazy...I'm just curious to know what?
And DS...you consistently make the mistake of thinking Dyer is a normal person who will operate within the framework of other normal people. He is not... and this is what makes this so entertaining...the guy is totally nuts, yet he as a certain 'functional charisma." Thus, he attracts a following. He is a cult leader in the making and we are watching a Jim Jones in embryo. The only question is how far will he go?
Vegas Rob
Vegas Rob, I think I have no interest in what Dyer does after all this. I am here for one reason and one reason only. Bigfoot. When all of the smoke has cleared and there is no doubt left I walk away and you will never hear from me again. I don't care about Ricks personal life or saving the believer from Rick's clutches. They are adults and can make their own decisions. Once again I want an answer because we don't have one, regardless of the insurmountable piles that contradict everything Rick says. If like you say you are here to save the believers, you have to ask yourself why and then you must come to the conclusion especially after talking to people like DS that, that is impossible. Rick can stand up and say my bad at his next video conference, no Bigfoot, just an innocent hoax and there will still be some believers. The task you set yourself is futile
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Also Vegas Rob, if you are afraid of the debate because believers will continue to believe, you are putting the same blinders on yourself that you claim the others are wearing. A good debate is what makes us human and is a trait of intelligent people. To shy away from one does your cause no favors.
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Oh, don't misunderstand me it's not all about saving the believers. This is also a lot of fun. It's a real life, in real time mystery with a certifiable con man/cult like leader at the forefront. And...he's just so easy to dislike!
DeleteI'm the type of guy who NEVER posts anything anywhere. I don't even have a facebook page. But this story has captivated me for some of the reasons previously stated. Also, I do believe that Bigfoot exist and I was initially 'hopefully optimistic' when this whole tent video/shooting came out.
But, it didn't take long to realize a fraud was taking place.
Vegas Rob
Cool. I am the same. This is fun and my optimism on even the possibility that Bigfoot exists hings on this. The term I used on a previous blog was that I came out of Bigfoot curious hibernation over all of this. If this is a hoax, I will go back into hibernation. I don't believe for a second this is real, but I can have hope till the end right?
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I Just give him the benefit of the Doubt...Until He does Stupid stuff Like Delay the Date!
ReplyDeleteDS, did you ever see the Batman movie with Heath Ledger as the Joker? I don't remember the scene exactly...but Bruce Wayne was trying to understand a logical reason for the Joker's behavior? And Alfred responded by telling Bruce a story and then saying something like, "Some men just like to watch things burn."
ReplyDeleteAgain, I can't remember exactly... but the gist was that for some sociopathic individuals there is no "rhyme or reason" for their behavior. They're simply NUTS!
And this ladies and gentleman fits our boy Dyer to a tee.
Vegas Rob
BTW, G.A. I have really enjoyed your post's on this and other blogs. I'm glad you've been involved. You have a lot of great input and I always look foreword to reading what you have to say.
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Thanks man. Like you said it is fun.
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Dude,
ReplyDeleteDyer has lost it. Just bashed Noel for not showing up 27mins approx. I thought he was about protecting them and has said they are monsters that should be killed. Best part is that his kid is right there while he is dropping f bombs left and right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZF90urhKosQ
Got a love it. So he's is claiming Bigfoot is a child eating monster and needs to be killed. Where do you think he comes up with this stuff? He would have nothing to back that up unless, he witnessed it himself and in multiple cases. People you can't make factual statements out of this air. Also sounds like he is being racist against bigfoot. Lumping All Bigfoot in as child killers. He is a pathetic waste of skin.
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Thanks for the link! I'm on my way...
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Hey, Folks! Check out Dyer's site. Looks like he's going 'meltdown' once again. He has a video of burning bigfoot items on a grill and promising 'big things' on tonights program! LOL
ReplyDeleteYes he wants to burn all the dead bigfoots he kills. He's a total wack job. Thanks for giving us more proof what a crazy fuck you are
ReplyDeleteRick Dyer really makes you want to reach out and slap the shit out of him. I can barely stand to listen to him. I can't believe he has any friends or anyone paying attention to him. He is now encouraging genocide of this creature all of a sudden. Why is he so anti bigfoot now? I think we all need to put Rick in the rear view mirror.
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Holy Shit!!!!Dyer is going nuts!!! Check out the link above of his latest video meeting!
ReplyDeleteJust said Chris Noel should be brought up on murder charges when Bigfoot kills!
ReplyDeleteI sure hope our.messiah rick can save us from them thar bigfeets eattin are chillins!
ReplyDeleteJust listened to the beginning of the production tonight and I have to say that Rick sounds like the haters have finally won! Just like any bully, you push back and they run away whining. No more shows, no more talking to the haters, all TT members stay off other boards, no body going to be shown, etc. And then he goes in to a rant about pro kill to distract us from the fact that he is a crybaby that want no more of the haters. We have won!!!!!
ReplyDeleteDid his show just.go off the air or is it just my phone messing up?
ReplyDeleteWasn't his last expedition all about trying to COMMUNICATE with bigfoot?! Now he says if you do you'll die!? LMAO!!!!
ReplyDeleteVegas Rob
It went off the air and then he ended it. Since this has become just like a pro wrestling bit, it sounds like Rick has changed his tact to bigfoot being a monster that needs to be killed. This explains all of his actions lately because no one understands these monsters like him. Thus he pisses on books and acts a certain way. That is why so many of his followers have left, they don't understand the seriousness of these child eating monsters. I noticed porno dallas or wayne weren't on tonight. Last show I recalled he was asking them about talking to bigfoot. Tonight he seemed to say no one can communicate with them completely contradicting his two buddies and what was said. Still trying to wrap my head around how this new murderous beast angle will lead to no body being released. Not a very strong angle.
ReplyDeleteHa. Looks like the NSA stepped in and shut him down. Mid speech handing the floor over to another TT member and boom. No more show. I can only say thank God!!!
ReplyDeleteG.A
He has flipped his shit. The hater massacre he calle for today turned into a Dyer massacre. And it was fucking beautiful!!!!
ReplyDeleteI never really understood the term hater being thrown around, but I can say after what I saw, I hate that man. I hope his life is ruined by this and it's a never ending uphill battle to even find a job. This guy deserves every bit of spite thrown at him and I truly hope he pays for this in a big way. Really, what a shitty ending to this whole thing. Rick didn't shoot Bigfoot. Rick Dyer shot himself with his big foot in his mouth.
ReplyDeleteG.A
This would be a good time to get some "Rick Dyer" stock. It's at an all time low and can only go up from here! (LMAO)!!!!
ReplyDeleteDoc, what do you think of your man now? Are you still 50/50?
ReplyDeleteRick Dyer! The hero and champion He will ave all our children from the child eating monster. Thankfully he warned us not to communicate with them or they would slaughter us
ReplyDeleteSo Mr Frank Cali did Dallas actually call in the Bigfoots to finish you off? Ricks change of story makes your latest story look seriously foolish now doesn't it? When we you learn? Dumbass...
ReplyDeleteI don't think there is anything more to debate or to wait for concerning Dyer. I think we saw the end here tonight. You can't believe the people who are part of his show like this guy. You also have to believe many of them are now really starting to doubt him themselves. You got to wonder what his wife thinks about all of this. She has to know the truth. Unfortunately that means this site also wont have much purpose if this is the end. It would get rather boring to continue to hate on Rick when he disappears. I'd love to have a site where we can debate other things concerning BF, but not sure I can continue to be part of a conversation of a guy that just poured gasoline all over his head and lit a match. I guess we'll see where things go, but like I said, this may have been Dyers last hurrahh. It was great chatting with you all. Maybe I'll be back if there is something to come back for.
ReplyDeleteG.A
I have not seen that side of Dyer, and I must say he was a couple Taco's shy of a Combination Plate!! BF might be stealing Kids toys, but beating the Piss out of them, shaking them too hard, and taking their toys, Have you lost your Mind Rick?? Rick said that on this Expedition if He shot a BF, He would release it on TV, Immediately, What the Heck, Release Hank Already!! He acts Like He is going to postpone Hank until He shoots another one, or someone else does??? Rick seemed really confident that Hank still is going to be shown, and at the same time, He acts Like it's not...This whole entire Soap Opera has been Like that, A Little Proof Here, A little Lie here, A Little Eyewitness here, A Little Rumor Here, On and on.....I will say that Rick seems to be getting rid of those who are following Him, Slowly but surely....Book Pissing, Demands, Delays....is He Getting rid of us slowly, so when he reveals it's a Hoax, only 2-3 are left?? Is He going to keep doing Expeditions, until someone shoots one? Will He come out with Hank, and Prove everyone Wrong?
ReplyDeleteI'm so mad right now I'm about 10/90!!
But in Reality, Probably 40/60!
I find it hard to believe you are still 40/60. Hope you aren't a gambling man.
DeleteAnyway, to each their own, I suppose.
Dyeria of the mouth now found the Bigfoot house too? Maybe it was with Ark of the Covenant and Jimmy Hofa's remains. This guy has become a cartoon parody of himself. lmfao. This is a rant reaction to simply hate on Noel. Rick really needs mental help folks. I'm starting to feel guilty watching this mental illness unfold before us a little. After watching this spiteful rant it is obvious who is filled with hate. Rick please seek some help dude before you can't take it anymore and do something uhhhh...., worse?
ReplyDeleteI wonder if he will vanish on the next expedition... Run off to mexico with everyones cash and make it look like he was abducted and killed by a bigfoot..... seriously I would not be suprised if this happens!!!!
ReplyDeleteI bet he never makes it.
ReplyDeleteRick has turned Vampire hunter...Er, huh, I mean Bigfoot hunter extreme!
ReplyDeleteDon't ya'll see what this noble man is doing? He is delaying the showing of Hank so he can go out into the world and eradicate Bigfoot once and for all!
The logic: since bigfoot is believed not to exist, Rick can exterminate at will. But, if he reveals the body...they will be deemed a 'protected' species and Rick will not be able to protect us from the "horror" that surely awaits.
Rick, the messiah! Just think, some day in a church way in the future, people may be praying to an image of this man.
Vegas Rob
Only YOU can stop Man-Bear-Pig!!!
ReplyDeleteI love South Park references! LOL
DeleteVegas Rob
Damn, what a noble man! To think he is giving up potentially millions of dollars so that he can make it his full time gig to hunt and kill that bastard Bigfoot!!!
ReplyDeleteI'm just glad he was able to talk sense to the investors. I'm sure they all realized how the fate of humanity was at stake and they agreed that all the millions wasn't worth the destruction that would be caused by the hordes of hairy "Lenny's" running around holding children too tight.(That was one of Dyers theories, that bigfoot was too rough in playing with children). LMAO!!!
Well DS, someone that changes his story with a lie here etc then acts like he did tonight clearly has a mental illness. Someone that acts like him can't be expected to tell the truth and probably isn't. I hope that you are starting to see this
ReplyDeleteWOW...and speaking of 'the horror!' can you imagine being Dyer's wife and watching this nut job up close??! She's got to be scared shitless!! This guy could turn Jack Nicholson in "The Shinning" any moment now.
ReplyDeleteLily, get the kids and get the hell out of there!
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She is just as messed up in the head as him.
DeleteInteresting for sure..I was kicked out of chat.
ReplyDeleteNotice the over the top call to kill *the monster*.
He then distanced himself from Noel and Barnes and TRASHED his lone legitimate supporters!
THEN>>>He calls in the *good cop*>>>MUSKY! I now see how Musky fit's into Dyer's strategy. Musky proceeded to *diffuse* Dyer's tirade on Noel..nice touch!
My bet, Dyer is going to end up in jail. He can't seem to help himself. He keeps pushing to the extreme and he is obviously crazy. I'm afraid he's going to really hurt somebody before this is over. I just hope it's not his wife and kids.
ReplyDeleteAny of you TTers reading this...you need to get this freak some help before it turns bloody. Let the authorities know he's a ticking time bomb. His money is drying up and he is a prisoner to the spotlight. The Dude is totally delusional, he'll eventually snap!
I would LOVE to hear Chris Noël's thoughts on Dyer's hoax/kill now. I have conversed with Chris via email a couple times and I thought then as I do now, that he is a great person. I was taken aback when Chris came out with the book, and wholeheartedly backed Dyer's story. I can only hope Chris can now see the light and rely on his instinct and experience to weed out further conflicts.
ReplyDeleteChris, if you read this, know we don't fault you, or think you are in on the hoax, you backing out of Dyer's show just proves you are seeking truth and justice. PLEASE drop us a quick note and tell us your thoughts on what ACTUALLY transpired.
I doubt he'll respond, everyone is scared to death of Dyer! He's a bully, willingly to make up anything about anybody. Unfortunately, people not speaking out only emboldens someone like Dyer. I wish more would stand up to him.
DeleteI hope this doesn't come off the wrong way (sincerely) but why is there such respect for people like Noel, and other Bigfoot trackers/researchers? My understanding is that these guys say, factually, that BF exists. That is simply not true. There is no concrete evidence that has ever been presented that would enable someone to factually state that BF exists. In fact, quite the contrary. The videos are 99.9% "blobsquatches" that could literally be anything under the sun. The DNA was just proven to be a hoax. Maybe not a hoax meant to hurt people, but rather someone wanting to believe so badly they misrepresent their research. I have watched every video the believers have told me to watch. I have read every article I could find about the DNA evidence. I have listened to the "bigfoot calls" and so on and so forth. There is just no legitimate evidence. Most hoax's, or assumptions are debunked by the bigfoot community itself which is even more interesting because there is no legitimate evidence to compare something to. The whole thing is so strange...
ReplyDeleteDyer, I know you follow this blog so I'm going to give you some free advice. You have lost most of your followers and thus your income. You will have a REAL hard time ever perpetuating another hoax due to your obvious past. What to do? The way I see it there is only one thing to do:
ReplyDeleteCome out with the truth, no...not your truth...THE REAL TRUTH! Come clean and seek professional help with your sociopathic/con man behavior and write a tell-all book about yourself.
This will garner you some attention that you so love, put some cash in your pocket, and then you can be a professional "con man' debunker with your new found credibility!
Honestly, you don't have many options...but the longer you wait the worse it's going to get.
Vegas Rob
If he is a true sociopath, he has no conscience and is a lost cause. But if he is just a conman maybe he could follow your advice, although I doubt he will.
DeleteAnon 9:53. No disrespect taken. As I stated before, Chris Noël has been very respectful to me personally. I had a few questions, he answered timely and was forthright. I can NOT say the same for Mr. Dyer who has spewed forth disgusting language, beat a pregnant woman, urinated in public (self published on the Internet as well), I could go on and on. You state there has been no evidence, I say there is mountains. Who is right? Hopefully we can both be civil to say we both are wrong AND right. I personally respect Christopher Noël for researching, documenting, experimenting all avenues to do his part in solving this mystery. What if there is no bigfoot??? Is he not still worthy of respect? Maybe you should ask yourself about who is worthy of respect. You? Me? Dyer? Congress? Manson? Madonna? Really, how is Noël hurting you or I? I still respect him.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the thoughtful response anon 10:10. I should clarify a bit...I certainly did not mean to imply he is not respectable as a person. I have never met, or spoken with him. I am sure he is a delightful person and I don't question that. I guess what I take issue with, and this is not an attack on Noel specifically, is the arrogance. Maybe it's just me, but that is how I read it. I think it's cool that someone has such a strong interest in a topic that they take the time to research, experiment, etc. But I cannot grasp how the "evidence" that has been gathered thus far can be looked at as anything but circumstantial. And even that is a stretch in my opinion. Yet they seem to have zero doubt and seemingly dismiss alternate theories because they do not confirm the existence of BF. That is why this whole Dyer thing got some traction isn't it? There was finally supposed to be some real concrete evidence...but as expected, it is a hoax and back to square one we go. Not looking to bash anyone, just makes for some interesting discussion... especially since this Dyer thing is losing steam.
DeleteI have to admit, I was crushed when the Ericsson project turned out to be a bust. How he and so many were fooled by hat horrible Wookie mask is beyond me. I think he wanted it to be true so bad. I'm glad that dyer is turning out o be another hoax. We need a respectable person who puts the actual work in to discover BF officially
ReplyDeleteThe trouble there is you need a truly objective person. That is not easy to find. Most people do not believe in BF and the ones who do are fanatic about it. Anyone who has a pre-conceived notion that BF is real would likely take anything that could be deemed as evidence and try to pass it off as legitimate proof. Which is pretty much the current standard. So even if the person is respectable, as Noel may be, he is not objective.
DeleteThat's sort of the point I am trying to make anon 10:30. Every single event that was supposed to be major in the discovery of BF has come up bust. And the other circumstantial evidence is generally so weak that you cannot prove or disprove anything. It is just a he said/she said scenario. Anyone can play me a tape with a little blurry blotch and some random screams claiming its a BF...but that doesn't make it so.
Delete"The Haters are the most stupidest people in the world". LOL.
ReplyDeleteMaybe his reason for not showing the body will be that they are such vial monsters that they don't deserve any attention. Even dead ones should be completely eliminated from this earth.
ReplyDeleteYes..in the final analysis there is no BF. It's just fascinating to see something like this. I must admit..Musky had me hooked at first, but it's now apparent he works for Dyer.
ReplyDeleteCATHIEE! CALLING CATHIEE!!! Where are you, girl? Er, I mean, guy...or whatever you are?
ReplyDeleteDyer needs you! He's never needed someone as badly as he needs you now! Won't you come to his aid? Give him the kind of 'groveling' support only you can provide!
We know you would do anything for Dyer...ANYTHING. So go to him tonight...be the one shining star in an otherwise dark night for the heroic, but fallen leader.
DYER, didn't I tell you the clock was ticking? It's always ticking. Now, how many ticks before your ass winds up in jail? Let's begin shall we. TICK-TOCK, TICK TOCK, TICK TOCK...
ReplyDeleteDyer, with the speed to which you're going through VP's I'll would like to "throw my hat" into mix for the next spot. I hear the pay is great, the environment uplifting, and the prestige incredible! I mean VP of Team Tracker...WOW! With that on my resume I could probably spring board over to being secretary of the 'Man-boy love' association!
ReplyDeleteSo, we all know that sooner than later Frank is going to cheese you off somehow. Maybe he won't bow deep enough for your liking or smile big enough when he sees you. Either way keep me in mind for when that fateful day comes.
I have been trained by Cathiee and realize that some of the duties of the office is...well, uncomfortable to say the least. But I'm a trooper and will bring along my own bucket!
Please call me anytime. My number is...do you have a pen handy? Ok, then it's 1800-eat-shit. Got it? Good!
I'm surprised Frank isn't already out because he had a mind meld with the satanic beast.
DeleteGood point about Frank. I'm sure Dyer is already 'eyeing ' him suspiciously. It probably won't be long until I get that call!
DeleteDyer, I still believe. You know why?...because so many others do not. LMAO
ReplyDeletePS: don't disappoint me, I know you have a lot of crazy left in you!!!
Cathiee Mcmillan is a fat hairy woman who has no life so she looks for one online. She married a woman online from Dinver on SL and they were madly in love. She got kicked out of every group and foroum she was in because all she wanted to do was start trouble. Then Enter Katherine into the bigfoot world and the same old sad story. Don't get me worng, she still occasionaly puts a dick in her mouth, but Katherine prefers fat pussy. Right KAtherine? typey typey type typey typey type
ReplyDeleteI just pinched a loaf in my Shit Bucket.
ReplyDeleteThat was not porn I was watching.It was the Taterholing of Dick on the Expedition.If you look closely you can see a big grin on Dicks face.The scene that was on the podcast was right before John/Cathiee Preston blew out Dicks Taterhole.I have been reprimanded by Dick and Chris for y'all seeing part of the video.
ReplyDeleteI hope this helps clear things up for all TT Members.
PS.Dick blew out his chrome molly steel taterhole when testing it out with a Mickeys Big Mouth Bottle of Beer and has spent all the members money on a new titanium taterhole.We need to another benefit for Dicks Taterhole Rebuild.Just forward your money to Chris.We need your donations for a 5 gallon bucket of gear lube for the next Taterholing of Dick.Dick has promised Wayne the bucket after all the lube is used up.Dick is such a Saint.
GO TTERS!!!
Dallas.
So is that why the 'bigfoot unveiling' is being postponed? Is it due to Rick getting a new titanium taterhole and he will most likely be in recovery?
DeleteLet us know what you find out and you can count on my donation. And congrats to you Wayne on the new 5 gallon bucket! It appears X-mas will come early for you this year.
I took a shit Dicks cement pond.
DeleteAnyone hear anything about the supposed bigfoot shot and killed in oaklahoma recently?
ReplyDeleteHow recent? I haven't seen anything but would like to read about it
DeleteImpossible. Rick Dyer is the wolds best and only bigfoot tracker. Unless he tracked and killed it, it didn't happen. But if it did, that is one less child that will be played with too hard or have his toys stolen. God Bless Rick Dyer
ReplyDeleteHe's a national treasure!
DeleteTwo new articles on Dyers website trying to make him feel important again. They are pretty darn funny.
ReplyDeleteIn other news, DS is now back to 70/30 after having read them. :)
Only Rick Dyer, the worlds greatest bigfoot tracker, know that bigfoot loves to kill children. This is evidenced by him finding bigfoots 1800 Sq foot home in the woods. In the master bathroom there is a pinewood derby track that circles around the room and ends in the bathtub. When the kiddies gonto retrieve their cars, he waterboards them, mind melds them, and eats them brain first. Such vile creatures. So what else was found in the child killers house? Please add to this post!
ReplyDeleteToo funny. Rick you clearly wrote the second one. Your command of the English language vernacular is outstanding (provided English is your second language). Don't you feel like an ass referring to yourself in the third person (like when you say Rick Dyer blahblahblah etc?) You really should because it is odd and unsettling all at once...
ReplyDeleteI bet ol' DS is out with his shotgun looking for the big hairy man as we speak.
ReplyDeleteAnd DS, for the love, if you do happen to shot one (this goes for everybody) take a picture right away and post it! Have the camera with you!
I am so sick and tired of every time someone claims to shoot a bigfoot they leave the body and come back and it's gone. Or, they have great film or photo's and they wait to write a book and make millions only to have the MIB shut them down and take the evidence!?
C'mon, People!!
...I'm just glad Dyer, "The worlds greatest bigfoot tracker" was smart enough to do it right! Thank goodness he has a body and I'm sure it will released any day now.
ReplyDeleteRight DS?
I dont know...frank cali emailed me and said to hang in there, the haters were the reason for the postpone........and that is was not ricks fault......i have to wait to hunt bf on weekends......im going to set up my trail cam, had a fresh tree break right near my house.
DeleteGood luck, DS. And if you get something don't get greedy. Get it on film and post it right away.
DeleteWhy would things be postponed because of the haters? I'm not sure I understand. If anything, he would expedite the release of the body to shut us all up.
DeleteNow, by delaying it, he seems to have lost any credibility among his actual supporters, and the hate is coming on 10 fold.
I AGREE!
DeleteHey, Dyer! How's it looking for your Vermont expedition? I bet people are busting down the door to get in on that action, huh?
ReplyDeleteToo bad you couldn't keep what little bit of marbles you have left in your head. No, you had to go all out crazy didn't you? Well, it's costing you amigo!
I bet there is a good chance you cancel Vermont. You'll probably claim it's due to exciting events taking place in Texas.
Go get 'em, HERO!
Rick, I've just read your latest blog about what a brave man you are. Dude, for your sake, I hope you never awaken from your delusional state. Because if you do, you are going to be so 'freaking' embarrassed! Do you even have any inkling as to the huge JOKE that you have become?!
ReplyDeleteI've never seen anything like it? You are the lowest of the low. The king of clowns! No one will ever take you serious again. What a life...what a legacy.
For most people your statement of embarrassment would nail it right on the head. I was actually recently embarrassed to find out my friends could see I was posting on FBFB. Not that I wouldn't be ok with that if real proof someday arrives, but until then, my interest in Bigfoot is something I would rather mostly keep to myself accept anonymously. Rick and people like him in this field are exactly why I don't really want to be known for having an interest. Now Rick is invested and he is known for his being involved in Bigfoot, so he would never feel the embarrassment that I felt from something as simple as a post on a bigfoot FB page. But he absolutely should for acting not only like one of the biggest idiots we have ever seen and I mean that not in the generic sense, but he is truly a very stupid man. He is also very crazy. Not in the generic sense, but he is truly someone who if tested would never be let out of a mental institution again. He is also mean, cruel and heartless. Not in the generic sense, but in the sense that he is a scary person, that I would be afraid to turn my back on and he has never been afraid to show that side of him. He is without a doubt Bi-polar. Manic and then lowest of low. Mood swings that can only be seen to be believed. We believe he slit the neck of a poor innocent dog and he is now promoting genocide of a mythical creature, that supposedly now, out of the blue, eats children. I can barely put into words what I witnessed last night on his show. I cannot believe, everyone of those people didn't get up and walk out. That goes more to those who follow him loyally than anything that came out of his mouth. We saw one of the most pathetic excuses for human behavior that I think has ever deliberately been posted on Youtube, without the slightest inclination that they were completely off their rocker. If you didn't know better you would think drugs were involved, becasue I have only seen anything like that from a blackout person completely annihilated on some sort of drug or alcohol. I thought this hoax was fairly innocent up till last night, but now I see something entirely different. He is dangerous. We have definitely not heard the last of Rick Dyer and I predict, it will be in the form of some sort of story where he is taken out by the police, because the last remaining loose screw in his head gently, but with eagerness fell to the ground, just so it could claim not relation to the man it came from. I honestly don't care to ever witness something like that again. I do hope the retribution and fallout is swift for him. He deserves what he gets.
DeleteG.A
But only Rick Dyer, the best bigfoot tracker in the world, and Random Car Wrap Guy know how dangerous a bigfoot is!
ReplyDeleteHere is a delectable quote from Dyer on his show last night where he is addressing what he'll do after he kills more Squatches:
ReplyDelete"And I'd like to stack all the Bigfoots up, and I'd like to throw some gasoline or kerosene or diesel and burn them....(~3 second pause / blank stare)......Or put 'em in museums." 38:31-38:46
LOL....torch the bodies or put them on exhibit, one or the other! Way to think that through!
Yeah Rick, now that you have turned over a new leaf and you are only looking to save mankind from this hairy horror...why don't you reveal your find to prove to the world the truth of your story? At least you could release some photo's?
ReplyDeleteJust think, Rick. If you don't and some innocent person is killed...you could be ACCOUNTABLE FOR MURDER!!! Isn't that what you told Robert Lindsey?
You need to provide the evidence to warn people ASAP! Failure to do so could cost lives!!! Come on, Rick, practice what you preach. Show the world Hank as a warning to stay away from the woods.
Rick,please... do it for the children!
Vegas Rob
Cathiee Mcmillan is a fat hairy woman who has no life so she looks for one online. She married a woman online from Dinver on SL and they were madly in love. She got kicked out of every group and foroum she was in because all she wanted to do was start trouble. Then Enter Katherine into the bigfoot world and the same old sad story. Don't get me worng, she still occasionaly puts a dick in her mouth, but Katherine prefers fat pussy. Right KAtherine? typey typey type typey typey type Better get back to work.
ReplyDeleteOPEN LETTER TO MUSKY ALLEN
ReplyDeleteMr. Allen,
You did a good job standing up to Dyer last night and his lunatic 'Bigfoot Massacre' talk. You did it for one of 3 reasons... it was a planned good cop-bad cop routine, you saw yourself loosing control of your partner in crime, or you were really worried that Dyer is destroying his and your credibility, because there really IS a body.
If you were upset for that 3rd reason, and there IS a body you saw, then why wouldn't you come forward and try to keep the story from looking as ridiculous as it does now, instead of staying connected to him and always just reacting to whatever he does?
In other words, do you really care anymore if we believe you, or are you like Dyer, and think everything he does is OK because there's a body and it all will work out in the end?
Remember that your report on the body was an important part of many people's belief in the story, maybe the only part in some cases.
There's a good way to get to the end as well as a bad way, and Dyer is choosing the very worst way. Why take the same path? Please consider making some public statement that helps us understand how you are connected to Dyer now and whether you can offer any further testimony to balance the complete loss of credibility Dyer has caused you to suffer.
If you don't speak now, you now appear to just be his accomplice in a hoax, and maybe that matters to you or maybe it doesn't. If it does, please let us hear from you.
Yes, classic *GOOD COP BAD COP* played out last night. I even PMed Musky in the chat room and used that exact terminology with him! His job was to diffuse Dyer's INSANE TIRADE against Noel and Barnes.
DeleteOK..so, according to Dyer, the body will be released >>>OUT OF NEVADA in another state. A *LV CASINO* bought the body and it's now being released in another state....LOL. Just thought we should state the obvious here.....aside from the fact he's buying time.
ReplyDeleteDo it for the children!!
ReplyDeleteBTW, just how long has Musky been involved in the bigfoot community? When did this supposed skeptic first arrive on the scene?
ReplyDeleteMaybe, Dyer and Musky had this hoax planned out longer than most people think. Did Musky just appear out of nowhere 6 months before the Hank story broke? I don't know, but I could see him being a Dyer 'plant' to add legitimacy. You know, playing the role of a skeptic months before and people think that he's been around for years.
I wouldn't doubt if he and Dyer had this plan laid out a long time ago.
Vegas Rob
I would sooner hire a Bigfoot as a nanny to my children than have Rick Dyer within 500 yards of my family.
ReplyDeleteIt's really interesting watching this whole thing unfold. I don't believe in BF so this was a hoax from the get-go in my eyes. BUT, I was really intrigued by Dyer. The man is clearly crazy and a really bad liar, but highly entertaining at the same time. But, even that has become so redundant its losing its comedic edge for me. I have actually found the most interesting piece of this puzzle to be his followers. I've had lots of life experiences, but I have never witnessed people just blindly follow someone who is so obviously out of his mind. And not just follow, but defend him with every fiber of their being. Now granted, there are likely a handful who are in on the hoax and so i wouldn't consider them to be in this group. They are probably receiving some form of compensation. But you have people like Doctor Squatch, Cathiee and all those random people that are present during Dyer's video chats. I just cannot grasp people being this gullible. It literally does not make sense to me. Are they just looking for acceptance and it has nothing to do with BF? Were they really taken in by Dyer and his cult like behavior? Are they so desperate to believe/prove BF is real that they will latch on to anything?
ReplyDeleteAnyone care to weigh in on the psychological profile of these people? I really don't get it, but I am very intrigued and would like to understand more about it.
Lonelyhearts and star fuckers
DeleteHoly crap I just watched the vid from last night and Dyer is BAT SHIT CRAZY!
ReplyDeleteI hope another Ed Smith-esque hoaxer comes along after this Dyer crap blows over. I mean Good Ol 'Ed did it up right, long back story, pressure switches, air powered hatches, ex seal team members on hire, codes, on call veterinarians, tranquilizers, motion detecting heat sensing cameras, and multimillionaire benefactors. NOW THAT WAS A HOAX!
ReplyDeleteDyer is a failure, failure for TT, failure for Haters, failure as a hoaxer, failure as a husband (wife beater) failure as an expedition leader (heart attack anyone), what can this idiot do right? Besides piss on a $40 dollar book.
He's like a real life 'Joker!' That's why I call him the "CLOWN KING!" It fits, with that clown mobile he drives around and the circus atmosphere he creates.
ReplyDeleteDyer...what a piece of work!
Did you catch any rain on your drive home to Watertown? Poor thing, it's gonna rain most of the week. At least you don't have that long of a drive! Have you been to Curves lately? Great place to workout.
ReplyDeleteTrue dat! He is a low-level hoaxer. The only people he was able to sell this hoax to were sub-human bottom dwellers! Let's face it, many of us were intrigued when the story first broke but it didn't take long for most of us to see it for what it was...a poor hoax.
ReplyDeleteBut what amazes so many of us is how absolutely dense and easily fooled this small,delusional group that still worship at the feet of Dyer!?
Can you believe he still has a following at this point? That there are people still sending him money and going on expeditions with this con man? And now he has sent out executive orders demanding his cult followers to abstain from looking at other sites and they must send him their 'personal' information? UN-FREAKIN'-BELIEVABLE!!!
Can you say 'Jim Jones'? Can you say 'Heavens Gate'? Yeah, this isn't going to end well!
As someone on this site once said, "on this upcoming expedition, I would advise you NOT to drink the kool aid.
This is a GREAT article regarding the misinformation Ketchum keeps trying to put forth. I imagine there is overlap with regards to Dyer and Ketchum supporters. DS and Cathiee have vigorously defended her in the past and so I urge you to read this. It is based in science. Nothing more, nothing less. The whole piece is a great read, but page 3 is really poignant.
ReplyDeletehttp://arstechnica.com/science/2013/07/an-honest-attempt-to-understand-the-bigfoot-genome-and-the-woman-who-created-it/
This direct quote from Ketchum has to be my favorite part...
Delete"There's groups of people called habituators. They have them living around their property. And they interact with them, but they're highly secretive because one, people think they're crazy when they say they interact with bigfoot—and I prefer Sasquatch by the way, but bigfoot's easier to say. Finally a group of them came by and said "you want to see 'em? we'll take you and show you." And they did. The clan I was around was used to people and they were just very, very easy to be around—they're real curious about us, and they'd come and look at us, and we'd look at them."
Wow...just, wow.
If there were any doubts about the data, I'm sure this quote by Ketchum will put even the hardest skeptics into the believers' camp.
DeleteRick! RICK!! Quick! A bigfoot just ran off with my child! They are playing very roughly with each other in a vacant lot next to a Lowe's in San Antonio! Come quick! I'll get a homeless woman to place a 911 call now to validate the claim!
ReplyDelete......HURRY!! They are no longer playing checkers they are now playing touch-football. It's going to turn into tackle before long!
DeleteBring baby keys, ribs, your rifle, duct tape and your flashlight so you can strap it to the end of your gun in case night falls before you get here,...don't forget the reefer truck (and get a RECEIPT for 'reefer truck guy!), make sure federal agent lady is available, and put Musky on notice he has to be available next week to verify the body!
We got 'me this time Ricky! F- the haters!
You also need a documentary film maker, even better an "asshole film maker" with a qualification.
DeleteWell it seems Rick has finally flipped his lid. As the money runs out Rick will continue to get crazier and crazier and if no one goes on his Vermont trip everyone is going to see Rick go insanity crazy.
ReplyDeleteYou know, the government has been raiding the homes of people that have mental issues and own firearms in an effort to prevent some of the things that happened like school shootings. In fact raids have been going on all over the country and firearms removed. If someone were to report rick to the fbi stating that he is mentally unstable (true) and that he owns a firearm (also true) and that we think he is or already has gone over the edge (we all agree on this) then they WILL do something. I garuntee it.
Vengeance is the Lord's!
DeleteYou're Evil Mata-Hari!
I don't know about that...I suppose it's possible but it seems like they would have to have an expert opinion. If he hasn't made any threats against people, I don't know what reason they could use. On the other hand, raving about killer Sasquatch could be interpreted as unstable.
DeleteHey, I am just looking out for the kids cause Dyer is gone off the edge, he's talking about going hunting for a mythical beast and I am pretty sure all his talk about kids is not healthy.
DeleteCan you imagine those little Mexican-children of Dyers (if they are Dyers) how messed up they are going to be? I mean living with a Dad like that???? I mean he is raising a whole new generation of Mexican used car dealing ebay-fraud scamming bigfoot shooting con men. I feel sorry for them.
ReplyDeleteI am witty am I not? I think this is why Dyer doesn't like me so much. Oh that and the fact that I am on his team and he cant find me.
Well, assuming they are the children of Dyer they would be American MH. Sometimes children strive to be what their parent(s) aren't- let's hope that is the case.
DeleteMH, so you are a "platinum member" as I recall?
DeleteMata-Hari,
DeleteLet's not get carried away here. We enjoy reading posts and the drama and all that, but please don't get full of yourself.
There are enough big heads around here.
Spare us the racial crap.
Racist too I see!
ReplyDeleteRacist?! Explain. You just an asshole like the ones that follow Dyer, quick to point fingers, and even quicker to believe a snake oil salesman.
DeleteMH,
DeleteYou are being irrational here. If you have to ask why, keep reading your post until you figure it out.
Certainly someone with the investigative skills such as your should be able to figure that out.
I should add childish from the the response you gave.
Your whole post came off Like you Hate Mexicans! Even saying anything about Rick's kids is Low Life Scum Bag Talk!!
DeleteAgreed, lets keep this discussion on the up and up.
ReplyDeleteDoc, what are your thoughts on the 2010-11 Dyer photographs?
That was all new to me when I first came here....I haven't looked into it with everything else going on...I think I saw the Pic...I first thought He made a fake Pic to get a bunch of Hits on youtube? Has Dyer said anything about the Pic?
ReplyDeleteVideo of Rick starting at an early age...watch til the end.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxCHEJSHOBE
DS, did you have a chance to read this yet?
DeleteVery curious to hear how you will dismiss it.
http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/07/an-honest-attempt-to-understand-the-bigfoot-genome-and-the-woman-who-created-it/
I don't have time to go through it. I more worried about Rick, than Melba.
DeleteI did read the first page, but 2 more, whew!
It seemed from what I read that it was an attack on how the Evidence was Prepared, not on what the Evidence showed. If you can discredit the manner in which it was Prepared, You can make the Evidence seem wishy washy.
She didn't spend 5 years researching something Bogus!
You don't have time to go through it? Ok then.
DeleteWell, yes it appears that she did spend 5 whole years researching something bogus. You should really read the whole article. It gets quite detailed. She disregarded every bit of evidence that would discredit her conclusion.
It is very similar to what happens with all Bigfoot research and sightings, etc. People see what they want to see and they ignore all the things blaring them in the face saying, YOU ARE WRONG, THIS IS NOT A BIGFOOT.
Not to mention she claims to have access to an entire "clan" of BF, with whom she is on good terms with, by the way. Yet she cannot seem to provide a definitive piece of evidence from that whole clan. Weird, huh?
Wasn't she also a devout supporter of the Erickson footage which was proven to be a hoax? Interesting.
It does relate to Dyer in that a hoax is a hoax is a hoax. Now it appears someone in Oklahoma is claiming to have captured a live Bigfoot. He claims to have sent out DNA evidence. The story was not supposed to be leaked but since it has been they wont be sitting on it for long. They plan to release HD footage very soon....Now, where have I heard that before?...I can't place it...
Word from inside:
ReplyDeleteDyer is making up all this delay stuff to stick it to the haters. He wanted to have a big laugh when the body is revealed on August 15, and he knows if he says its delayed that's the one thing the haters will declare victory over.
He can't suddenly have total control when he had no control yesterday, so it makes sense (to us) that its all made up. The problem is, but no one will dare ask Rick, is why he would be so far away in Vermont just before the body is released. If you're as paranoid as Dyer you wouldn't risk it coming out sooner. Everyone is very worried about that not making sense.
Another problem is that Noel is being attacked for getting closer to Dyer, with people telling him he's being set up. So the delay video was bad timing, because it scared Noel and made him write a snooty message backing him and Jack Barnes out of the show last night, which pissed off Dyer and started all the award burning and kill-Bigfoot stuff on the show.
So a day that had started as bash the haters and trick them into thinking we moved the date, with Dyer not even appearing (officially) on the show with Musky, Noel, and Barnes, became a Dyer-only bash Noel show, and the kill all the Bigfoots stuff was meant to get back at him.
But Musky wasn't expecting that, and called in to try and salvage things. The issue now is that Dyer is saying Sunday morning that he has total control of the body and has the support of his investors, but by the end of the day his focus has been shifted to Bigfoot genocide. Not exactly the kind of well-adjusted individual anyone would let control the news of the century. That was always a joke, but to appear insane the same night you say you've taken over control of a $50 million body's release to the world is...bad timing.
Notice on the show how Musky is even questioning the delay video, like Dyer has pulled that without running it past him. Makes it an obvious made-up tactic. So there's concern that Musky blew the cover on that, so he's doing damage control today, while the Team Tracker members who knew nothing had changed are now REALLY wondering how their insane boss is going to get away with being out of town right before the body is revealed without it somehow "breaking" early. But those are the kinds of questions they don't dare ask.
There are at least five people on the team who say they are there now just to keep the flow of information moving to the outside. One is close to Rick but the others are on the edges. They're afraid to leave on their own and hoping Dyer will cut them, which goes better for departing members. They all think Cali is an idiot but no one will step up and especially no one will lie for Dyer like Cali will. That's why Cali is VP...Dyer can't stand him but he will do anything Dyer wants. Everyone pretty much thinks Dyer is insane but that maybe he is telling the truth about the Bigfoot and all the other lies are just what he does.
DeleteNone of that stuff matters. You cannot keep a body from decomposing for almost a year with some magical powder! We were told very clearly it was not embalmed, and even if it were, they would have to hire full time people to maintain the body multiple times a week. And we know it has not gone under the process of plastination. These are the only options for keeping a body from decomposing over the long term. This is definitive proof that we are dealing with a fake, or no body at all. Beyond that, nothing matters...
ReplyDeleteMy mole is telling me that more and more TT members are leaving, dyer is beyond paranoid and apparently Chris is wising up and questioning Dyer. Dyer got wind of Chris asking questions. The member that Chris was talking about this with was recently booted. Hopefully Chris will come to the obvious conclusion soon
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